Oberndorf Mauser

Hi Snipok

Wonderful collection !!!
Is that Type A in 404 one of the newer 98's or is it a prewar gun?

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Thanks for the infos about Mauser made by Zastava, didn't know.
Quality of the rifle is excellent, except for the stock that reflects Zastava rifles

Here's a link on more info about these rifles.

https://www.gunboards.com/threads/looking-for-help-to-id-mauser-sporter.1067573/

You will also find if you measure the action, it is not a full length 98 but intermediate length as found on the m24/47 and m48 Yugo Mausers.

While i don't agree with the first statement in this quote, the second part comes across pretty sound.

It is a commercially produced M98 by Zastava in the 1980s. Zastava did not reuse actions from WWII. The name "Mauser-Werke Oberndorf GmbH" and the Mauser banner were licensed to Zastava for this rifle. "GmbH" stands for: "Gesellschaft mit beschränkter Haftung". That is the post-war German equivalent of a Limited Liability Company (LLC).
 
Here's a link on more info about these rifles.

https://www.gunboards.com/threads/looking-for-help-to-id-mauser-sporter.1067573/

You will also find if you measure the action, it is not a full length 98 but intermediate length as found on the m24/47 and m48 Yugo Mausers.

While i don't agree with the first statement in this quote, the second part comes across pretty sound.
Thanks again for the info
For the intermediate action found in original Oberndorf sporters, they have the same measures between the action screws as a regular action, wich is not the same for Yogoslavians, Zastavas, Mexicains, ect., Wich they don't have the same space between the screews
 
It's a prewar gun that has been professionnally refreshed , it as the Lyman 35 sight
It is pretty rare to see a Pre war Mauser with such a nicely figured stock.
The only other one I have seen in Canada was a refurbished rifle that was done by Chris Dawe, but I think he put on a new stock.
 
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George Gibbs - 461 No1 Farquarson number 41
WJ Jeffery 404 Take down
WJ Jeffery 375 H&H
Rigby 303 Slant Box action
Rigby Highland Stalker 275 Rigby
Rigby 375 H&H Magnum length action - Single Square Bridge
Holland and Holland 375 H&H - Magnum Length Action - Single Square Bridge - Partial take down
Holland and Holland 30 Super - (300 H &H) - Partial Take down
Westley Richards - 318 WR - Partial Take Down - Owned by the Earl of Egmond
Westley Richards - 30-06 - Take Down
 
Left tot right

George Gibbs - 461 No1 Farquarson number 41
WJ Jeffery 404 Take down
WJ Jeffery 375 H&H
Rigby 303 Slant Box action
Rigby Highland Stalker 275 Rigby
Rigby 375 H&H Magnum length action - Single Square Bridge
Holland and Holland 375 H&H - Magnum Length Action - Single Square Bridge - Partial take down
Holland and Holland 30 Super - (300 H &H) - Partial Take down
Westley Richards - 318 WR - Partial Take Down - Owned by the Earl of Egmond
Westley Richards - 30-06 - Take Down
Superb collection with high quality Mausers
A pleasure for the eyes
 
Also, there weren't too many made , aroud 3,500 to 5000
Since most of the common cartridges used for hunting actually require a longer action, the Kurz rifles were not made in large numbers they are, in fact, quite rare. In his first book, Original Oberndorf Sporting Rifles, Mauser expert Jon Speed estimates the total production of Kurz rifies to be more than 5000 but less than 10 000. After further research into this matter he states in his second book, The Mauser Archive, that this was optimistic and revises his estimate downwards to a production figure between 3500 and 5.000 units. This makes the Mauser Kurz action significantly rarer than the famed Mauser Magnum
 
Left tot right

George Gibbs - 461 No1 Farquarson number 41
WJ Jeffery 404 Take down
WJ Jeffery 375 H&H
Rigby 303 Slant Box action
Rigby Highland Stalker 275 Rigby
Rigby 375 H&H Magnum length action - Single Square Bridge
Holland and Holland 375 H&H - Magnum Length Action - Single Square Bridge - Partial take down
Holland and Holland 30 Super - (300 H &H) - Partial Take down
Westley Richards - 318 WR - Partial Take Down - Owned by the Earl of Egmond
Westley Richards - 30-06 - Take Down
What an amazing collection you have! I would be really happy with one of those beauties can imagine what it’s like to own that many amazing rifles!!
 
I would love a Kurz action someday. One of my dream rifles.
A couple of years ago, a local gun shop had a Kurz fullstock Model S for sale. I forget the caliber. So I drove over to have a look. It had a poorly welded-on replacement bolt handle (I think from a Remington) and was drilled and tapped (which was not mentioned in their online ad). Aside from the modifications, it was in no more than overall "good" condition. It wasn't quite a "beater" but it was getting close. Yet he still wanted twice what I was willing to pay and after considering the asking price plus restoration costs, I decided to pass on it. With some of the rarer Oberndorf Mausers, it may be that the normal rule of "condition, condition, condition" affecting value does not always apply. I may be wrong, but to me, a rare beater is still a beater.
 
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A couple of years ago, a local gun shop had a Kurz fullstock Model S for sale. I forget the caliber. So I drove over to have a look. It had a poorly welded-on replacement bolt handle (I think from a Remington) and also was drilled and tapped, which was not mentioned in their online ad. Aside from the modifications, it was in no more than overall "good" condition. It wasn't quite a "beater" but it was getting close. Yet he still wanted twice what I was willing to pay and after considering the asking price plus restoration costs, I decided to pass on it. With some of the rarer Oberndorf Mausers, it may be that the normal rule of "condition, condition, condition" does not always apply. I may be wrong, but to me, a rare beater is still a beater.
Many years ago, at a Gun Show, I had a conversation with Eric Lerhe, he told me that prices about Oberndorf Kurz rifles where going crazy, he said also that even actions alone worth couple of thousands. The few times I had the chance for this little Kurz, I tryed with an extra "coin" in my pocket
 
Check out the very handy farmer in Australia who spent 4 years of his rare spare time making himself a brand new Oberndorf Mauser Model B "tribute rifle." It took him 4 years. He used an Obendorf marked South American military 98 receiver. I think only one original Oberndorf Mauser Sporter part (a rear tangent sight) was used. I gave him some slight assistance with, stock measurements, and photos from an original.

And then he took it hunting. He recently told me that he has, "taken 6 animals with it and the stock has already collected a few “memories...”)

https://www.gunboards.com/threads/type-b-tribute.1242562/#replies

http://forums.nitroexpress.com/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=343495&page=0&fpart=4&vc=1

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