.260 Remington

[iron cat]

Mag length... Whoop-dee-doo! LOL Swede still outperforms the CM with "Heavy for Caliber" bullets; actually originally designed for 158 gr. back in 1896. It is still around after over 130 years. Even the old military rifles had very fast twists.

Manbuns and Lulu Lemons don't make up for good old powder capacity. If you need more than the Swede gives, then 6.5 x 55 AI.

Will be Creed be here in 130 years? Only time will tell. By then, if Hornady is still around, I'm sure they will have muddied the waters even more with dozens more redundant fad cartridges.

The National Course competitors and PRS competitors that originally started using the Creedmoor were not using it in swede length actions and magazines, nor in 1896 Mausers.
It just happened that it became a very popular cartridge for hunting and competitions.
It is right in the middle of the 6.5 spectrum of cartridges as far as case capacity and velocity go.
However if it were me and I were buying a rifle and it was in 6.5 Creedmoor, it would have to be in a very special rifle , because I still have one 6.5 and it is a Mannlicher Schoenauer and that is a hard to beat combination as a hunting round.
For competitions , the 6.5 would be a consideration for an F/open or a steel match gun, bit I don't shoot either, so it would be a deal breaker for me - but then, so would a match rifle in 6.5X55
Cat

 

[Meroh]

The National Course competitors and PRS competitors that originally started using the Creedmoor were not using it in swede length actions and magazines, nor in 1896 Mausers.
It just happened that it became a very popular cartridge for hunting and competitions.
It is right in the middle of the 6.5 spectrum of cartridges as far as case capacity and velocity go.
However if it were me and I were buying a rifle and it was in 6. Creedmoor, it would have to be in a very special rifle , because I still have one 6.5 and it is a Mannlicher Schoenauer and that is a hard to beat combination as a hunting rould.
For competitions , the 6.5 would be a consideration for an F/open or a steel match gun, bit I don't shoot either, so it would be a deal breaker for me - but then, so would a match rifle in 6.5X55
Cat

If I wanted a 6mm, .243 Winchester with a fast twist is really hard to beat.

 

[remington jim]

I have and shoot a 6.5 Grendel / 260 REM / 6.5x55 Swede / 6.5 CM / 6.5 x284 / 6.5 PRC And YET I’m building a New 6.5 CM for up too 1000 yard F class shooting . who would of thought that Hey

 

[Desert Precision]

Mag length... Whoop-dee-doo! LOL Swede still outperforms the CM with "Heavy for Caliber" bullets; actually originally designed for 158 gr. back in 1896. It is still around after over 130 years. Even the old military rifles had very fast twists.

Manbuns and Lulu Lemons don't make up for good old powder capacity. If you need more than the Swede gives, then 6.5 x 55 AI.

Will be Creed be here in 130 years? Only time will tell. By then, if Hornady is still around, I'm sure they will have muddied the waters even more with dozens more redundant fad cartridges.

Not everything is about case capacity.

 

[dan belisle]

Not everything is about case capacity.

Not everything is about mag length. So it goes. Choose your cartridge, choose your platform. Have a good time. - dan

 

[remington jim]

If I wanted a 6mm, .243 Winchester with a fast twist is really hard to beat.

But a 6 CM is a Better Choice BETTER Brass ! SRP ! BETTER Shoulder angle ! Better Fit ! COAL -

 

[Meroh]

But a 6 CM is a Better Choice BETTER Brass ! SRP ! BETTER Shoulder angle ! Better Fit ! COAL -

Sure, time will tell. Marginal improvements are not always easy to justify for some of us.

 

[Hungry]

What I really loved about my 260 rifles was the fact that my RCBS Precision Mic in .308 worked as a headspace measuring tool for my .260 since the 260 is from the .308 parent cartridge. I made my 260 brass from 243 brass.

I’m shooting a 6.5 Needmore these days since growing a top knot is part of my Asian heritage! Yuk Yuk Yuk.... Besides SRP brass is easy to find with Peterson and Starline (my preference for availability) !

 

[remington jim]

Sure, time will tell. Marginal improvements are not always easy to justify for some of us.

Time has by FAR TOLD ! 260 Rem is a relic now - The CMs have taken over !
We have the 22 - the 6 - now the 25 and we have the 6.5 we just need a 7 and to reintroduce the 30 TC as a 30 CM and get the brass mans to crank out some good brass !

338 Federal and 358 Win can just stay on the 308 case as neck angle isn’t a problem or is coal

 

[Desert Precision]

Not everything is about mag length. So it goes. Choose your cartridge, choose your platform. Have a good time. - dan

I agree.

Which is why these arguments are so asinine and pedantic.

There is no "best". It's all about what tradeoffs you are willing to make in order to obtain your objectives.

Maybe that ends up .260. Maybe 6.5 Creedmoor. Maybe a completely different cartridge.

 

[remington jim]

I agree.

Which is why these arguments are so asinine and pedantic.

There is no "best". It's all about what tradeoffs you are willing to make in order to obtain your objectives.

Maybe that ends up .260. Maybe 6.5 Creedmoor. Maybe a completely different cartridge.

Your No FUN lol

 

[Lee Enfield]

The CM does better when it comes to shooting heavy (for caliber) projectiles from mag length OALs.

I know people love to get butthurt over 6.5 CM, but the .260 Rem was never properly supported by Remington. It never had a chance. You may call the 6.5 Creedmoor just a mere "marketing success", but properly supporting a cartridge is tantamount to its survival.

Creedmoor was designed specifically for ar10 mags.

If you are running aics or a conventional .308 box mag, there is no advantage to limiting your powder capacity to CM, or Lapua.