what about robinson arms
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Davy Crockett
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Hiya Kevin
I bought one a couple of months ago and while I haven't shot it a ton I like it so far. Decently accurate, no jams, fit, finish and ergonomics are good. Every one else who's shot it seemed to really like it as well. The only thing I'm not a huge fan of is the stock but there are adapters to take AR stocks.
The only question mark is whether there will be long term support from RobArms as the rifle was designed for the US military trials and didn't make it. Only time will tell I guess, in the mean time I'm just going to enjoy shooting mine
I bought one a couple of months ago and while I haven't shot it a ton I like it so far. Decently accurate, no jams, fit, finish and ergonomics are good. Every one else who's shot it seemed to really like it as well. The only thing I'm not a huge fan of is the stock but there are adapters to take AR stocks.
The only question mark is whether there will be long term support from RobArms as the rifle was designed for the US military trials and didn't make it. Only time will tell I guess, in the mean time I'm just going to enjoy shooting mine
I think Wolverines last price on them was $2000, but what factory 5.56 semi-auto rifle would you pay $2500 for? Piston operated AR-15's cost just as much as the XCR and I'll bet the Bushmaster ACR (if it's even going to be exportable) will come in around the same price range. The Tavor and Sig's are $3K. You really think the XCR should cost the same as a stamped metal AR-180b?
The AR180B should be at least $400 cheaper than it is. So no, I don't think the XCR should cost the same as the AR180B.
I can't believe what newly designed rifles cost these days either. If we could get the AR's de-restricted, I doubt many people would pony up what manufacturers are charging for these non-restricted black rifle alternatives. I'm OK cleaning out a gas tube if it means saving myself $1000 - $2000, but the extra storage and tranportation requirements for a restricted rifle really suck.
Back on topic though - I'm seriously considering buying an XCR. They're non-restricted, they don't destroy the brass, they're reasonably accurate, they can take the 10 round LAR pistol magazines, and as a bonus they are piston operated.
Back on topic though - I'm seriously considering buying an XCR. They're non-restricted, they don't destroy the brass, they're reasonably accurate, they can take the 10 round LAR pistol magazines, and as a bonus they are piston operated.
How does the 18.6" HBAR on the Canadian versions affect the balance of the XCR's? The reviews I read mention the 16" versions being a tad front heavy.
Getting stuck with a fixed tubular stock because of U.S. export legislation really sucks too. I wouldn't want the folding stock, but a nice collapsible one would be nice.
Getting stuck with a fixed tubular stock because of U.S. export legislation really sucks too. I wouldn't want the folding stock, but a nice collapsible one would be nice.
They are front heavy, I can say that the barrel feels like most of the weight of the rifle. I finaly got my hand on a ACE SOCOM stock it makes a perfect match. Thinking about putting some kind of weight inside the unused buffer-tube, any ideas ?
Too bad about the 18.5"+ stupidity, a slightly lighter (or fluted) 12 incher would be a LOT better for handling caracteristics on the field.
Too bad about the 18.5"+ stupidity, a slightly lighter (or fluted) 12 incher would be a LOT better for handling caracteristics on the field.
heavenIsAlie
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how do these compare in the gopher field vs the bolt action varmint rifles ~1200$?
Fluting the barrel might be a worthwhile upgrade to restore the balance provided it doesn't adversely affect accuracy.
Image and information taken from AR15.com. The fluting was done on the entire barrel (not just the exposed part - except of course around the gas block) and reduced the weight of the 16" HBAR to be comparable to that of the 16" light barrel. 34.4 ounces versus 30.9 ounces.
From reading on AR15.com, it appears as though the HBAR is now a 1/9 twist - same as the light barrel. That's another sucky development as far as I'm concerned. Why did RobArms go away from the 1/8 twist barrel? Maybe the Canadian 18.6" version will still be 1/8?
Toya: I don't know what the diameter of the buffer tube is, but perhaps a steel bar cut to length with a couple wraps of electrical tape for a friction fit? A piece of nylong stocking filled with leadshot?
Image and information taken from AR15.com. The fluting was done on the entire barrel (not just the exposed part - except of course around the gas block) and reduced the weight of the 16" HBAR to be comparable to that of the 16" light barrel. 34.4 ounces versus 30.9 ounces.
From reading on AR15.com, it appears as though the HBAR is now a 1/9 twist - same as the light barrel. That's another sucky development as far as I'm concerned. Why did RobArms go away from the 1/8 twist barrel?
Maybe the Canadian 18.6" version will still be 1/8?Toya: I don't know what the diameter of the buffer tube is, but perhaps a steel bar cut to length with a couple wraps of electrical tape for a friction fit? A piece of nylong stocking filled with leadshot?
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If they compare to 1200$ bolts ? Good question, I haven't tried mine at longer range than 50m on iron sights; yet I don't count any results that day as anything as concrete, I could barely see my target. Once a bit a snow has melted I'll be able to finaly shoot for some accuracy tests and finally try the ACOG at real ranges instead of the 25m bulls**t that I'm stuck to do...
Yup the barrel is 1:9, its stamped on the forward part. Alex Robinson said that he found no advantages to go 1:8 when he tried the 77gr black hills load; I believe thats one reason why they don't offer it as of now. For such long bullet be stabilized in that twist, we'd have to try it. It worked for him, maybe it will for me and others. I've also read that some had good results with hornady 75gr. I think they should still offer the 1:8 anyways, too much variables.
Yup the barrel is 1:9, its stamped on the forward part. Alex Robinson said that he found no advantages to go 1:8 when he tried the 77gr black hills load; I believe thats one reason why they don't offer it as of now. For such long bullet be stabilized in that twist, we'd have to try it. It worked for him, maybe it will for me and others. I've also read that some had good results with hornady 75gr. I think they should still offer the 1:8 anyways, too much variables.
Well I did some searching thru the gunsmith forum and read various opinions on the pros/cons of barrel fluting. The consensus seems to be that the weight reduction from fluting can't be felt. It would probably make more sense to just get the entire barrel turned down and leave the flash-hider off. Adding some weight to the stock would certainly be the cheapest route to balancing the gun. Does anybody know what the Canadian version XCR weight?
I have to say, that fluted XCR barrel does look pretty skookum! Too bad Robinson doesn't sell them off the shelf like that
I have to say, that fluted XCR barrel does look pretty skookum! Too bad Robinson doesn't sell them off the shelf like that
Yeah, if you have to have a long barrel sticking out, it might as well be purdy to look at!
Toya: thanks for weighing your rifle for me!
They might become collectors items soon.
Alex Robinson made it public that he was supporting Mitt Romney in the presidential race.
Mitt Romney supported the assault weapon ban.
Alex took a severe beating on arfcom about it.
http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=1&f=5&t=657289
Alex Robinson made it public that he was supporting Mitt Romney in the presidential race.
Mitt Romney supported the assault weapon ban.
Alex took a severe beating on arfcom about it.
http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=1&f=5&t=657289
Thats story has been up for a while, must have been some kind of mormon stuff or whatever. Good thing Romney was routed off... Pretty strange for a small company like this to show public support to a particular candidate; I didn't see FNUSA or BerettaUSA cheering anybody (mil contracts?). Anyways, Smith&Wesson, Ruger endorsed gun control measures and yet they are still in buisness so far; we shouldn't bury Robinson too fast, different story than Zumbo.
