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No one at any time is anti-hunting or attacking you in this thread, that is just you wanting to figure out a way to look important by trying to insult others, and it doesn't work because no one cares. If you have to resort to what you think are insults (libwit, leftist) you have destroyed all relevance you might have had in this discussion.
Some of us are willing to listen to the suffering and the results learned from over a decade of fighting invasive feral pigs in the USA, and understand that repeatedly 'banging your head against a wall' does not get results. If the sounders remain then so does the ecological and crops damage. The only way to stop them is to eradicate them, and plain 'shooting them' doesn't work. Listening to people 'on the front line' isn't stupidity. If I told you that fighting a battle in Nordic countries or anywhere in the world was not relevant because it 'wasn't in Canada' any (at least partially) sane person would call me out, rightfully so.
"Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results" - attributed to Rita Mae Brown's 1983 novel, Sudden Death and Narcotics Anonymous/Al-Anon 12-step program
Simple, the government doesn't want to restrict someone who has a sounder of pigs tearing through their yard where their kids play from shooting them. Like many things there is some intent behind them.
But, going out and hunting them actively on private land for sport or paid safaris: absolutely insane, yes. However, if no permits to do safaris are given and all sounders are pushed to government land where they can be trapped, then it woks.
It is on the one making the claim to back it up. If you can't substantiate your claim it is only opinion and state it as such.
If you are demanding that a claim can be made and you have no requirement to back it up then you need to dictate that to Rman because they are doing just that: demanding that backup to a claim is made.
Just a reminder of what feral pigs do in the USA:
Synopsis:
Feral pigs cause over $1.5 billion in total annual economic damage in the U.S., with direct agricultural crop losses exceeding $800 million to over $1 billion annually due to consumption, rooting, and trampling
. Major affected crops include corn, rice, wheat, soybeans, and peanuts. Beyond direct consumption, they cause extensive damage to irrigation, fencing, and equipment.
Key Economic Impacts and Costs
Total Annual Agricultural Damage: Estimated at $1.5–$2.5 billion, including crop production losses, pasture degradation, and livestock predation.
Direct Crop Losses: Estimated at over $1 billion for grain crops specifically.
Individual Impact: A single feral hog can cause an estimated $500 in damage, often rooting up to a half-acre of land, says the Noble Research Institute.
Specific Crop Damage: Fruit and vegetable crops suffer roughly $147.9 million and $50.2 million in damages, respectively, according to a Wiley study.
Operational Costs: Beyond lost crops, farmers face significant costs for repairing fences, repairing machinery damaged by torn-up fields, and replacing irrigation systems, note this Wiley study.
Damage Characteristics
Rooting and Trampling: Pigs use their snouts and hooves to tear up fields, making them appear "mowed down," say researchers.
Harvest Disruption: They often destroy crops just before harvest, notes the American Farm Bureau Federation.
Disease Transmission: Feral pigs can carry diseases like E. coli which can contaminate crops, particularly those eaten raw, say researchers.
The population of 5-6 million hogs in at least 38 states drives these costs, with high-value crops being targeted, according to Conservation Frontlines and the American Farm Bureau Federation.
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Synopsis:
Feral pigs cause over $1.5 billion in total annual economic damage in the U.S., with direct agricultural crop losses exceeding $800 million to over $1 billion annually due to consumption, rooting, and trampling
. Major affected crops include corn, rice, wheat, soybeans, and peanuts. Beyond direct consumption, they cause extensive damage to irrigation, fencing, and equipment.
Key Economic Impacts and Costs
Total Annual Agricultural Damage: Estimated at $1.5–$2.5 billion, including crop production losses, pasture degradation, and livestock predation.
Direct Crop Losses: Estimated at over $1 billion for grain crops specifically.
Individual Impact: A single feral hog can cause an estimated $500 in damage, often rooting up to a half-acre of land, says the Noble Research Institute.
Specific Crop Damage: Fruit and vegetable crops suffer roughly $147.9 million and $50.2 million in damages, respectively, according to a Wiley study.
Operational Costs: Beyond lost crops, farmers face significant costs for repairing fences, repairing machinery damaged by torn-up fields, and replacing irrigation systems, note this Wiley study.
Damage Characteristics
Rooting and Trampling: Pigs use their snouts and hooves to tear up fields, making them appear "mowed down," say researchers.
Harvest Disruption: They often destroy crops just before harvest, notes the American Farm Bureau Federation.
Disease Transmission: Feral pigs can carry diseases like E. coli which can contaminate crops, particularly those eaten raw, say researchers.
The population of 5-6 million hogs in at least 38 states drives these costs, with high-value crops being targeted, according to Conservation Frontlines and the American Farm Bureau Federation.
ht tps://scijournals.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/pdf/10.1002/ps.70247
ht tps://scijournals.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1002/ps.70247
ht tps://www.cnbc.com/2018/08/03/hogs-run-wild-but-usda-doubling-efforts-to-fight-problem.html#:~:text=The%20U.S.%20Department%20of%20Agriculture%20estimates%20feral,estimated%20at%20just%20under%20$1%20billion%20annually.
ht tps://www.noble.org/regenerative-agriculture/wildlife/four-ways-feral-hogs-cost-farmers-and-ranchers/
htt ps://conservationfrontlines.org/2025/12/north-americas-feral-pig-problem/
As you can see from the figures above, with all of the hunting and shooting of feral pigs in the USA it is NOT working to control the damage.
We can learn from the USA, NOT bang our head against a wall, and learn from their suffering. I am very, very pro-hunting but people here saying that we need to hunt feral pigs and not trap to eradicate them is akin to saying, "Let's leave the bed bugs in my house and just hit them with a fly swatter when we see one." If you can't see how relevant that analogy to bed bugs is (excellent environment, unlimited food source, lack of control, etc) then the truth of over a decade of US experience with feral pigs cannot increase your ability to understand.
As stated before, when shooting a few here and there still results in your property being damaged over and over even when you are allowed to shoot them I doubt you'll figure it out then too.
We can learn from the USA, NOT bang our head against a wall, and learn from their suffering. I am very, very pro-hunting but people here saying that we need to hunt feral pigs and not trap to eradicate them is akin to saying, "Let's leave the bed bugs in my house and just hit them with a fly swatter when we see one." If you can't see how relevant that analogy to bed bugs is (excellent environment, unlimited food source, lack of control, etc) then the truth of over a decade of US experience with feral pigs cannot increase your ability to understand.
As stated before, when shooting a few here and there still results in your property being damaged over and over even when you are allowed to shoot them I doubt you'll figure it out then too.
blahmblah,blah,, NOBODY cares still, about all your internet googling, ,every hunter i know, shoots any of those destructive nuisance on sight,and will keep doing so,how about we let rats run wild and not touch them,see how long before your little STUDIES and RESEARCH changes their tunes when they show up in THEIR homes and properties,they'll find a whole NEW set of studies when these things are on their doorstep.
And there's the problem: the USA has had those feral hogs on THEIR door step, in THEIR yards, in THEIR crops, and destroying THEIR farms to the tune of over a BILLION USD yearly and GROWING even though they are shoot on site.
You can ignore those that have learned the hard way. You can laugh at the hardship of those telling you are wrong. I won't deny you that.
But I know one thing.
When you are proven very, very wrong you won't even have the decency to apologize.
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So let the government deal with it then? Good plan. - danAs you can see from the figures above, with all of the hunting and shooting of feral pigs in the USA it is NOT working to control the damage.
We can learn from the USA, NOT bang our head against a wall, and learn from their suffering. I am very, very pro-hunting but people here saying that we need to hunt feral pigs and not trap to eradicate them is akin to saying, "Let's leave the bed bugs in my house and just hit them with a fly swatter when we see one." If you can't see how relevant that analogy to bed bugs is (excellent environment, unlimited food source, lack of control, etc) then the truth of over a decade of US experience with feral pigs cannot increase your ability to understand.
As stated before, when shooting a few here and there still results in your property being damaged over and over even when you are allowed to shoot them I doubt you'll figure it out then too.
Organize Proper Hunting Parties in different areas and rotate times killing them and I Think they can be controlled !
Dead ones must be COMPLETELY removed as the others will EAT them ! Phucking Cannibals !
Dead ones must be COMPLETELY removed as the others will EAT them ! Phucking Cannibals !
Well Jim… this sounds great. However, as you know from reading this thread, hunting only works on private property. Digesting the info generously provided proves this. Those pigs are soooooo smart they know how to read a map!Organize Proper Hunting Parties in different areas and rotate times killing them and I Think they can be controlled !
Dead ones must be COMPLETELY removed as the others will EAT them ! Phucking Cannibals !
So as long as you are a land owner then blast away. On public land? Not a chance! The government has to take care of it! And you know they will! They have never screwed anything up! Ever!
R.
Yes the Goverment has it all in hand
As you can see from the figures above, with all of the hunting and shooting of feral pigs in the USA it is NOT working to control the damage.
We can learn from the USA, NOT bang our head against a wall, and learn from their suffering. I am very, very pro-hunting but people here saying that we need to hunt feral pigs and not trap to eradicate them is akin to saying, "Let's leave the bed bugs in my house and just hit them with a fly swatter when we see one." If you can't see how relevant that analogy to bed bugs is (excellent environment, unlimited food source, lack of control, etc) then the truth of over a decade of US experience with feral pigs cannot increase your ability to understand.
As stated before, when shooting a few here and there still results in your property being damaged over and over even when you are allowed to shoot them I doubt you'll figure it out then too.
Not bad, not bad, they aerated the lawn for free, and no sign of them. Wish they would have taken the "yellow patches", too.
But one cannot force it...
And again, we had European countries that got rid of them completely, with tech no more complex than a bow and arrow. - dan
HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAH
Little bit of googling goes a long ways, While not a specific report this is the provinces reasoning. If this doesnt answer your questions you may just be beyond reason. https://www.alberta.ca/about-wild-boar-at-large#jumplinks-4
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