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Why does Remington suck so hard?
- Thread starter diemaco
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Hanging out at the museum of curiosities and oddities?
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Not entirely. Aguila makes the ammo for 5mm and Rem made around 60,000 rifles in 'er. I had a fresh Rem 591 back in the day that was deadlyHanging out at the museum of curiosities and oddities?
on squirrels, rabbits & raccoons. I like the scaled down Rem 788 type actions on them.
https://www.aguilaammo.com/products/5mm-remington-rimfire-magnum-jacketed-hollow-point
I’ve got a thought on Remington sucks so bad on what is pretty much my biggest beef with the 700s. Many, if not most that I come across have little or no primary extraction. It’s not like it wasn’t part of the design in the first place. If you only shoot factory anmo or moderate handloads read no further, but if you like to lean on things a bit, and have found yourself with a bolt handle that lifts normally but leaves you having a tug-o-war trying to get the bolt to come back this applies to you. I have a DIY fix for that, and although I doubt that I’m the first to come up with the idea, I did come up with myself, and it costs nothing.
That aside, why does Remington suck so bad that they made many or most of their 700s with functionally no primary extraction? I have concluded that they did it on purpose so they’d quit breaking extractors. You won’t break it if the gun doesn’t let you pull on it the way it was designed to do. So the primary extraction sucks because the extractors suck. Leaving out breakage, which may not apply to you or maybe most people, there is still a fatal flaw which is the suckiest of suction. A single grain of sand behind the extractor can stop you dead in your tracks with a rifle that won’t close on the chambered cartridge and won’t extract it either. If you are lucky enough to have a cleaning rod around, you can get the shell out and by positioning the rim behind the extractor manually you could still have a functional single shot though. Better than nothing.
That aside, why does Remington suck so bad that they made many or most of their 700s with functionally no primary extraction? I have concluded that they did it on purpose so they’d quit breaking extractors. You won’t break it if the gun doesn’t let you pull on it the way it was designed to do. So the primary extraction sucks because the extractors suck. Leaving out breakage, which may not apply to you or maybe most people, there is still a fatal flaw which is the suckiest of suction. A single grain of sand behind the extractor can stop you dead in your tracks with a rifle that won’t close on the chambered cartridge and won’t extract it either. If you are lucky enough to have a cleaning rod around, you can get the shell out and by positioning the rim behind the extractor manually you could still have a functional single shot though. Better than nothing.
When I owned mine, Remington was still in buisiness, that was maybe 8 years ago. Pre covid by a fair bit. Truly Federa and Hornady were the most innacurate; and suffered ruptured cases. Remington was as good as it got in my rifle.
Alberta Bigbore
CGN Regular
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- Edmonton, Alberta
Ive gone back to Remington... back to my roots i suppose... one of my latest i put together. 7mm08 Mountain SS. Have a 28 year love affair with Remington... im always buying and reselling brownings and such.
I owned that same model and chambering. I ditched the B&C stock and put on a Wildcat Composites one. Light, good shooter, very practical hunting rig.
Ive gone back to Remington... back to my roots i suppose... one of my latest i put together. 7mm08 Mountain SS. Have a 28 year love affair with Remington... im always buying and reselling brownings and such.
The early blued SPS 700s had a very course finish but the last one I bought seemed to be a lot better. I was pleased with it overall. It became a 6CM.There is nothing wrong with the finish on the 700 SPS, as long as you get it in stainless.
Saying that ..... I also have a stainless SPS that I like better.
Remember - the modern Remington is not the old Remington. Remington went bankcrup and was purchased by a new entity and moved.
Comparing the old products with the new one is irrelevant. Different birds.
Here is what AI digged out - since I did not remember the details:
Remington Outdoor Company, a historic U.S. gun manufacturer, filed for Chapter 11 bankruptcy twice—first in 2018 and again in July 2020—due to crushing debt, mounting legal issues, and falling sales
. Following the 2020 filing, the company was broken up and its assets were sold to several buyers, with the ammunition business bought by Vista Outdoorand firearms production primarily by Roundhill Group
How would they be different birds?
The engineering, design, materials, and most likely manufacturing would all be the same? Has the new outfit changed any of this?
What makes the new one irrelevant?
R.
Because the Corporation who run it and own it - the engineer - designers - employees - process - material are different. Manufacturing equipments are differents. No it is not the same and it will be foolish for the new owners to keep doing what has bring Remington to bankruptcy.
Have you missed the parts that says “the company was broken up and it’s assets sold to different buyers ?’’
The Ammo plant just have the former name ..as is the new Remington rifle company.
There are only so many ways to manufacture something... especially a rifle action. Even though the personnel are different (obviously), and the equipment different (possibly), the end result would be same, as long as the design is the same. And what is different about the materials?
Maybe an easier question is what exactly has physically changed between the new action and the old one?
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