Having trouble picking a scope

500 m? Burris Eliminators will do the trick so long as you aren't lugging it around the forest! Turned my Tikka T3x Creedmoor into a tack driver.
 
I observe that whenever scope quality is discussed, there's many a scope snob opinion so to speak that come out generalizing or making one man's unobtainium out to be a minimum starting point. I like how this thread brings out some truth about more economical scopes that we know do the job! Of scopes that fall withinish your specs, I have loved my Trijicon Credo 2.5-15x50, Bushnell 6500 4.5-30x50, and a Vortex Diamondback HP 4-16x42.
 
If its a fun gun and not a so to speak hunting or hard use gun, mostly range
the Bushnell match pro ED are decent (made in china) some guys really like them or hate them. Good price value
the Vortex isnt going to blow anyone away but perfect for your application.
Athlons are great but as you want better or more options (higher priced lines) they do get more pricey in terms over the others.

At the end of the day, they will all work its what your going to be happy with for the price tag and quality.

maybe missed it but if you posted a max $$$ amount you would like to spend it would be easier for us to help ya out.

also fun mention Burris 3-15 XTRII is fairly priced for what you get.

Its tough for me because diving deep into optics over the years its always Quality (glass)-Turrets-weight-durability
For a price I can find all that but always comes down to the weight that usually decides and breaks it for me.

Cheers!
 
A scope made your rifle shoot better? Interesting. How would that work?
Probably ment it made him shoot better…. Cause the rifle shoot the same lol. Actually I think we shoot the same either using open sights or scope is just that with the scope we are more precise/accurate?!?!
 
I have 3 x Athlon, 2 x Bushnell, 1 x Leupold and 1 x Nightforce.

The Nightforce is the top of them all as would be expected.

For a more economic purchase, the glass on the various Athlon's gets better as you move up the lines. I have had zero issue with any of them.
I would love to be able to say all the scopes I have off the top of my head...I can list the rifles, models, and calibers they are in though. Barely.

I bought extra rifle racks and swore I would only ever have enough to fill them...I am currently at least one rack short...
 
So I have been looking, researching, looking at various scopes and my head is about to explode. The scope is for a 6.5 cm that will be used at the range and not hunted with. I have a Nightforce SHV 5 to 20X on another rifle and am quite happy with it and would be happy with another but if I can find a more economical option I may go for that. Some of the options:

1) Vortex Viper or Venom
2) Bushnell Match Pro
3) Possibly some of the Arken or Athlon offerings

My requirements are:

1) 20X or more but has to be clear at 20X ( able to clearly see a five inch circle at 500 meters )
2) No illuminated reticle ( I really don't like those )
3) Solid tracking,and able to hold zero

Overall I want a solid, clear and durable scope and do not need any frills ( 30 or 34 mm tube )

Thanks in advance and all suggestions welcome
Riton ticks all the boxes, and will likely save you some money; I love mine, <$400.00 clear, Paralax, Zero stop on elevation, center zero on windage, 6-24 power on my CZ 455 precission rifle and a 4-18 on my 6.5 x 55. It is reliable and has enough adjustment I zeroed the .22 at 20 yards with a 40 MOA rail, and have enough adjustment to dial up past 300 yards. Lifetime warrantee as well.
 
A scope made your rifle shoot better? Interesting. How would that work?
True story, a fine, visible reticle in a stable, repeatable scope, will improve the precission of your accuracy dramatically. Not joking. Like a red dot with a 5 moa dot. You will shoot larger than 5 moa groups. 2 moa, groups will be about 3 moa smaller. My Riton has what I would call a micro dot where the cross hairs would converge, but they stop a bit short. At 24 power, the bullet holes at 100 yards are only slightly smaller than the scope dot. BTW, I love watching the bullets ark through the air and hit the target! Previous scopes were never clear enough!!
 
True story, a fine, visible reticle in a stable, repeatable scope, will improve the precission of your accuracy dramatically. Not joking. Like a red dot with a 5 moa dot. You will shoot larger than 5 moa groups. 2 moa, groups will be about 3 moa smaller. My Riton has what I would call a micro dot where the cross hairs would converge, but they stop a bit short. At 24 power, the bullet holes at 100 yards are only slightly smaller than the scope dot. BTW, I love watching the bullets ark through the air and hit the target! Previous scopes were never clear enough!!
But it has nothing to do with your rifle ability to shoot better or not. It is you, it makes you shoot better because you can be more consistent on losing the crosshair on target at the same place. The rifle is shooting the same. And if you shoot enough with open sights you could get really good results but it will take time !
 
But it has nothing to do with your rifle ability to shoot better or not. It is you, it makes you shoot better because you can be more consistent on losing the crosshair on target at the same place. The rifle is shooting the same. And if you shoot enough with open sights you could get really good results but it will take time !
Chicken-egg; cart-horse. Cause and effect. Even placebos work.
 
Chicken-egg; cart-horse. Cause and effect. Even placebos work.
Nope. Wrong. The rifle is capable of shooting to it's limit of accuracy. What sights are used doesn't change that. Sighting apparatus can make the man shoot better, but not the rifle.
 
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