On Clearance: TAC-12 "M3 Super 90"

I hear that some new owners have found the front sight to be installed off or leaning to the side on the barrel are others finding this?

Any other issues with feeding jams or follower or safety functioning?
 
Bartok5 said:
I got mine out to the range for its first shots/initial break-in. Right off the hop, it did not successfully cycle Challenger brand 1 oz High Velocity Slugs, lacking sufficient power to fully cycle the action. I remembered Tac Imports mentioning that heavy accessories could affect functioning, so I removed the Aridus Side-Saddle with 6 dummy rounds and lo and behold, the gun suddenly cycled everything that I fed it in semi-automatic mode - the aforementioned slugs as well as Challenger 2 3/4", 1-1/8 oz Birdshot loads. Ejection with the unencumbered gun was positive and forceful. Reliability was 100% for the 50x slugs and10x Birdshot that I fired once I figured out the external load issue. I tried switching from semi-automatic to pump-action and back several times without a hitch. The shotgun ran fine as a pump action, although I must admit that the semi-automatic function was much quicker (and obviously less effort) to cycle!

All things considered, I am happy with the performance of my Turkish "M3" as advertised. It reliably cycles 1 1/8 oz birdshot loads without break-in so long as I don't hang a bunch of extra ammo off of the side of the Receiver. Accuracy with slugs was acceptable with groups running approximately 4-5" at 50m. Definitely "minute of you-know-what", which all I ask of a scatter gun. I will get out again to pattern some Challenger 00 Buckshot once the warmer (and dryer!) Spring weather arrives and I can actually use the clays range without battling snow and mud in my wheelchair. For now, I am quite satisfied. Long-term durability remains to be seen over time, however Sulun has a pretty decent reputation among Turkish shotguns so I am not overly concerned with that aspect of things. I need to do some more experimentation to see where the reliability failure point is for external weight on the sides of the gun (eg. Light and SideSaddle). At minimum, a weapon light is required. A SideSaddle is desirable, but not critical like I consider a Light to be on a defensive firearm.

Those who own one of these shotguns know that the polymer "Field" Buttstock is held onto the Receiver by bolting to a "Recoil Tube" intended for use with a Collapsing Pistol-Grip Buttstock. This begs the question as to whether or not an aftermarket Collapsing Buttstock will work in the absence of a Sulun-branded Stock? I am thinking of ordering up one of the Buttstocks pictured below, but am not entirely sure that its' Recoil Tube would be compatible with the Sulun "M4" Receiver. Does anyone have any experience with this specific after-market Buttstock and the Sulun "M3" (built on an "M4" Receiver) Shotgun?


Sulun "M3" Recoil Rod on a Sulun M4 Receiver:

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Black Aces after-market Collapsing Buttstock for Benelli M4/S4:

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https://canadiansafetysource.ca/ben...al-s4-m4-tactical-adjustable-telescopic-stock
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Thanks for the review. What is the point of saddling “dummy rounds” to the side of a gun?
 
The old turknelli bug has bit me again I think. “Discontinued” from ti means never available ever again right? No matter how well it works out when I get it I know that deep down I will never trust this shotgun.
 
Ungrateful said:
The old turknelli bug has bit me again I think. “Discontinued” from ti means never available ever again right? No matter how well it works out when I get it I know that deep down I will never trust this shotgun.
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You won't trust it to what? Make you smile or draw a crowd when you take it to the range?
 
Grain said:
You won't trust it to what? Make you smile or draw a crowd when you take it to the range?
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I don’t want a crowd the rare time I go to the range. I shoot on my own land, with the people I invited. The 2 shotguns most accessible when I open my safes are both 1970’s wingmasters and the tiny locker in my bedroom closet only holds an old 870 and a Henry 22lr, as long as long guns go. The rest of my gun storage is in my shop and I doubt any turknelli will ever make it in the bedroom safe
 
Ungrateful said:
I don’t want a crowd the rare time I go to the range. I shoot on my own land, with the people I invited. The 2 shotguns most accessible when I open my safes are both 1970’s wingmasters and the tiny locker in my bedroom closet only holds an old 870 and a Henry 22lr, as long as long guns go. The rest of my gun storage is in my shop and I doubt any turknelli will ever make it in the bedroom safe
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So then its the smile part you need one for.
 
Ungrateful said:
Thanks for the review. What is the point of saddling “dummy rounds” to the side of a gun?
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To safely test whether or not the Shotgun would function reliably with a full load of 6 rounds in the SideSaddle. I had the inert ammo in the device to test handling and reloading drills in my hobby room at home, and kept them in there for the function test at the range. Could I have removed the inert ammo and replaced it with live slugs? Sure, but given that the inert rounds and live ammo weigh about the same, what would I gain from doing that for the purpose of reliability testing? As it turns out, my Turkish "M3" is NOT reliable with a full SideSaddle, nor does it function flawlessly with just the empty Aridus Tech SideSaddle on-board for that matter. It is a very beefy design of SideSaddle due to the replaceable "Cartridges" as well as the Quick-Release device. I am hopeful that a more streamlined and lightweight approach will allow the Shotgun to function reliably with a spare 6-round loadout on-board. Wait for it....

If you are actually asking why carry spare rounds on the Shotgun's Receiver, there are any number of reasons for using a SideSaddle. A fast reload, specialty ammo, etc. Just use your imagination.
 
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Bartok5 said:
The Turkish "M3" will not accept the Mesa Tactical "Urbino" Buttstock. The "Field" Buttstock that ships with the Shotgun fastens to a Collapsible Buttstock's Inner Metal Tube complete with deployment (length) information printed on the Tube. All you need to convert your Turkish "M3" to a Collapsing Buttstock with Pistol Grip is the Turkish (Sulun) Sliding/Collapsible Buttstock and Pistol Grip Assembly itself. The Inner Metal Tube that the synthetic Buttstock slides upon is already provided at the attachment point for the "Field" Buttstock. Unfortunately, the Urbino Buttstock is not compatible with the exterior shape of the Inner Metal Tube that it is supposed to slide upon.

If you want a collapsing Buttstock with Pistol Grip on your Sulun "M3", you will need to find a Sulun Arms Buttstock/Pistol Grip Assembly to slide over the existing Inner Metal Tube that is already in-place on the "M3".

I am not sure what other shotgun Buttstock systems might be compatible with the Sulun Arms "M3"???
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Good Day,

Just a quick update for those looking at stock options with the Tac-12. This is a customer picture of his build and to achieve the Benelli M4 stock attaching to the Tac-12 it only required a small amount of sanding on the trigger guard. Not all will want to go that route, but it is an option!
 

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Bartok5 said:
I got mine out to the range for its first shots/initial break-in. Right off the hop, it did not successfully cycle Challenger brand 1 oz High Velocity Slugs, lacking sufficient power to fully cycle the action. I remembered Tac Imports mentioning that heavy accessories could affect functioning, so I removed the Aridus Side-Saddle with 6 dummy rounds and lo and behold, the gun suddenly cycled everything that I fed it in semi-automatic mode - the aforementioned slugs as well as Challenger 2 3/4", 1-1/8 oz Birdshot loads. Ejection with the unencumbered gun was positive and forceful. Reliability was 100% for the 50x slugs and10x Birdshot that I fired once I figured out the external load issue. I tried switching from semi-automatic to pump-action and back several times without a hitch. The shotgun ran fine as a pump action, although I must admit that the semi-automatic function was much quicker (and obviously less effort) to cycle!

All things considered, I am happy with the performance of my Turkish "M3" as advertised. It reliably cycles 1 1/8 oz birdshot loads without break-in so long as I don't hang a bunch of extra ammo off of the side of the Receiver. Accuracy with slugs was acceptable with groups running approximately 4-5" at 50m. Definitely "minute of you-know-what", which all I ask of a scatter gun. I will get out again to pattern some Challenger 00 Buckshot once the warmer (and dryer!) Spring weather arrives and I can actually use the clays range without battling snow and mud in my wheelchair. For now, I am quite satisfied. Long-term durability remains to be seen over time, however Sulun has a pretty decent reputation among Turkish shotguns so I am not overly concerned with that aspect of things. I need to do some more experimentation to see where the reliability failure point is for external weight on the sides of the gun (eg. Light and SideSaddle). At minimum, a weapon light is required. A SideSaddle is desirable, but not critical like I consider a Light to be on a defensive firearm.

Those who own one of these shotguns know that the polymer "Field" Buttstock is held onto the Receiver by bolting to a "Recoil Tube" intended for use with a Collapsing Pistol-Grip Buttstock. This begs the question as to whether or not an aftermarket Collapsing Buttstock will work in the absence of a Sulun-branded Stock? I am thinking of ordering up one of the Buttstocks pictured below, but am not entirely sure that its' Recoil Tube would be compatible with the Sulun "M4" Receiver. Does anyone have any experience with this specific after-market Buttstock and the Sulun "M3" (built on an "M4" Receiver) Shotgun?


Sulun "M3" Recoil Rod on a Sulun M4 Receiver:

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Black Aces after-market Collapsing Buttstock for Benelli M4/S4:

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https://canadiansafetysource.ca/ben...al-s4-m4-tactical-adjustable-telescopic-stock
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Thank-you for the business and for the detailed review, much appreciated! :)
 
Ungrateful said:
The old turknelli bug has bit me again I think. “Discontinued” from ti means never available ever again right? No matter how well it works out when I get it I know that deep down I will never trust this shotgun.
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I’m the number one hater I know of Turkish produced stuff, but even I kinda like the look of these M3 clones. For reliability I have my real M4. This could make a neat lil toy but I would never trust it to do the things I’d trust the Benelli to do.
 
Shot mine with 3" and 2.75 slugs, 00B and 4B - all good in semi + pump ...

7.5, 8 + 9s fine in Pump mode. Needs to break in some more for Semi mode...

I wont really be shooting this 1 much so just breaking it in - other uses for it.
 
ZEN403 said:
Good Day,

Just a quick update for those looking at stock options with the Tac-12. This is a customer picture of his build and to achieve the Benelli M4 stock attaching to the Tac-12 it only required a small amount of sanding on the trigger guard. Not all will want to go that route, but it is an option!
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Thanks for the info. Can you advise which particular stock was sourced for this and from where?
 
D P said:
Apparently this was not correct. Now the spare parts kit ETA is (at least) 2-3 more weeks away.
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The parts arrived, but were not assembled into kits, instead thrown into a bunch of bags, many of them broken that had to be sorted. They need to be sent to Mississauga team for sorting and assembly into kits, apologies for the delay :(
 
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