New Alberta Hunting Regs out today

Suther said:
Would have been nice if they at least gave you a 1 year heads up to burn your points or something.

How much did it cost to get those points? Does AB require purchase of a hunting license each year to get them?
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Never added up the cost, but it would be noticeable.
Alberta requires you to have their $ 30.00 Wildlife Certificate before applying...
Add in tag application costs...
 
Priority points were $3.50/year and are now $5/year and have been a few years. 8 years worth, unless non-residsnts pay more, would hardly be any money.
 
Desjard said:
Priority points were $3.50/year and are now $5/year and have been a few years. 8 years worth, unless non-residsnts pay more, would hardly be any money.
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This is part of why I asked. Losing $30 isn't much. Losing $300 (if you had to pay for a license for example) still isn't a lot, but it's something. I'm pretty sure in some states you could be into the thousands after 8 years of buying licensing and points though, stuff gets pricey for a non-resident in some locales. Montana its a $50 license and $100 for a point each year from what I can see, and Idaho is $185usd for just the license!
 
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Alberta hunters have been pushing for these restrictions for years. Equally, they do not want outfitters to have allocations. Moreover, in recent current events, Albertans wish to seperate from the rest of the country; they are fed-up supporting the rest of the country and prohibited to export their product to market.

It's unfortunate that they did not give advance notice, a year in advance for those who applied for years, for a special draw. Alberta is advocating for it citizens.
 
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Desjard said:
Priority points were $3.50/year and are now $5/year and have been a few years. 8 years worth, unless non-residsnts pay more, would hardly be any money.
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Suther said:
This is part of why I asked. Losing $30 isn't much. Losing $300 (if you had to pay for a license for example) still isn't a lot, but it's something.
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The last several years you have had to buy a wildlife certificate (ie - hunting license) in order to apply for draws. That license is $30. As Desjard says, the draw applications are pretty nominal on their own, but with the license added in it adds up over time.


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JIMMY 808 said:
I doubt you will notice any change in wait times.
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He won't, but that has been the constant whine from Alberta hunters.
The number of non-resident applications was minimal compared to the resident applications.
Well over 153,000 resident hunters are active in the province. In contrast, non-resident (Canadian) applicants totaled less than 6,000.

There will be no noticeable reduction in wait times as a consequence.
 
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Well neat - just as I'm moving away for SK and a buddy is moving to AB. Was hoping for good opportunities still to hunt with him as my host.

I need to read all the regs but are there still just over the counter opportunities for non-residents for any species or is it all draws?
 
IronNoggin said:
He won't, but that has been the constant whine from Alberta hunters.
The number of non-resident applications was minimal compared to the resident applications.
Well over 153,000 resident hunters are active in the province. In contrast, non-resident (Canadian) applicants totaled less than 6,000.

There will be no noticeable reduction in wait times as a consequence.
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My real concern is the potential impact long term. Blocking non-res hunters doesn't do anything to address the actual causes of ungulate population declines in North America. How many people are going to call this a win and give the govt some slack? Judging by this thread it's gonna be at least a few.

Losing hunting opportunity sucks. Losing ungulate populations is a ####ing travesty though.
 
Suther said:
My real concern is the potential impact long term. Blocking non-res hunters doesn't do anything to address the actual causes of ungulate population declines in North America. How many people are going to call this a win and give the govt some slack? Judging by this thread it's gonna be at least a few.

Losing hunting opportunity sucks. Losing ungulate populations is a ####ing travesty though.
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Although I advocate to eleminate Canadian non-resident hunters from special draws, I agree with you regarding the decline of wildlife populations. Without great detail, I blame the Alberta government for incompetence/mismanagement of declining big game.

Accompany supplimental over the counter tags, et al, winter kill, predator kill, road/train kill, disease, poachers, indians and natural causes, these elements contribute to mass decline to wildlife populations. Include mass immigration to provinces + increased applications + less wildlife = longer periods of time for a successful draw.
 
IronNoggin said:
My local Hunting Partner & I were up for Antlered Mule Deer draws this year - they nixed that for all non-residents.
And they made the archery season in the areas we hunt for Mulies by drawing of a "special license" only - which of course nixes us on that one too.
Also nixed moose for non-residents.

Guess I'd better cash in my antlered Elk tag draw over there before they take that away as well...

Sucks.
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mfs have to play a casino, pay fees, get lectured by some subhuman looking instructor for a license. then you have to get a gun and all the liability from the feds. all for what? to shoot some ####ass deer in the countryside? in the largest country on earth next to russia.
i think there is actually less bureaucracy involved for MAIDing yourself then hunting or fishing.
even better is the crabs in a bucket mentality. if you hunt without the license you are a poacher, and that is one of the most hated words. unless theyre native then theyre practicing their ancestral ways or something like that.
brutal stuff man
i was shocked when people got arrested for spearfishing. a sharp stick near the water is illegal now. spearfishing is 100x harder than a pole.
 
Desjard said:
lets not forget a lot of the mass immigrants believe the laws don't apply to them so they will hunt and fish without the applicable licenses or tags......
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Compared to habitat loss, resource competition, and predators, a bit of poaching is unlikely to be a major factor. I'm not saying it's acceptable, but you could stop every single poacher and it's not going to fix things if the big picture issues aren't addressed.

People kill individuals. Ecological changes kill populations.
 
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