I orig went Makasi...
Then canceled that and changed to Carmel
Hmm. I do the opposite.makasi. i try my best not to support companies from israel.
I doesn’t matter at all - they banned pink plastic .22’s. as weapons of war.Isn’t there a much greater chance the Makasi gets banned as it shares parts with the AR.
I was actually wondering the same.Something else to consider, and I haven't looked deeply into this - with the new in-effect US tariffs, I don't know if it will impact firearms manufacturers. Both Brigade and IWI (for the Carmel) I think are made in the US. I am hoping the locked in prices still apply - and I don't know whether this is having an effect on the delays. I have to think the dealers in Canada who pre-ordered paid for these pre-recent-tariffs, so will honour the price to us...hopefully not do something unscrupulous like hike their prices...but who knows what happens when things cross the border in this climate.
Tariff is applied when it passes through the border - it is not to do with when a purchaser pays the bill.Something else to consider, and I haven't looked deeply into this - with the new in-effect US tariffs, I don't know if it will impact firearms manufacturers. Both Brigade and IWI (for the Carmel) I think are made in the US. I am hoping the locked in prices still apply - and I don't know whether this is having an effect on the delays. I have to think the dealers in Canada who pre-ordered paid for these pre-recent-tariffs, so will honour the price to us...hopefully not do something unscrupulous like hike their prices...but who knows what happens when things cross the border in this climate.
Carny's purpose is more or less a vessel for other global interests at a high level for certain economic agendas. Gun control and other things are just things he let the minions figure out and he doesn't care as long as he doesn't have to deal with it. It doesn't mean it is good, it just means as long as it doesn't irritates him he would let the minions do whatever they want. On the other if the minions are overzealous and it irritates him personally, he may put an end to it. Carney is narcissistic, it is actually better if the gun control people constantly harass him and eventually rub him the wrong way.Believe it or not, despite what Trudeau and his minions did, the appetite for gun banning and new lists, etc. seemed to have waned with Carney. Not saying Carney isn't going to be banning anything new, but he is not as much of an anti-gun zealot as Trudeau was...so in that vein, I took the plunge with the Makasi....you can bet your bottom dollar once that thing shows up, it will be a regular gun I take to my club. If they eventually ban it, oh well. I am not going to have the government dictate with fear, my buying decisions.
Doesn't the cost of the tariff get borne by the purchaser though, even if indirectly? Seller would have to incorporate it into their price, no?Tariff is applied when it passes through the border - it is not to do with when a purchaser pays the bill.
MakasiHi, I have seen long threads on both. Looks like some models have arrived in the country, but I pre-ordered my Makasi on the second wave arrivals.
Trying to convince myself to throw down a deposit on the Carmel. I so miss my X95 and while the Akdas is nice, just doesn't scratch the sporting 5.56 rifle itch.
I know the easy answer is get both. Not sure my risk tolerance, not to mention, my pocketbook will agree. Like many here, multiple times bitten by bans creates some slight hesitation. Getting the Makasi for sure as I put down a large deposit on it.
Waffling over putting a deposit down on the Carmel. I now regret not going to the East Hill Outdoors Carmel tryout a few months back.
Has anyone here been able to shoot them both and can contrast and compare? There is a fellow on YouTube from Canada who did do a short comparison for six minutes but it was all talking and in the end he picked the Makasi.
Thoughts?
EDIT: I added a poll to this thread. For people who actually pre-ordered one, the other, or both. Not necessarily for people who may WANT one...but it is for people who have actually put in a pre-order



























