Jesus, you reporting in from Bear's Butthole Manitoba or something!?At the post office for pickup… that’s an 1 1/2 drive but I’ll do it after work.
Jesus, you reporting in from Bear's Butthole Manitoba or something!?At the post office for pickup… that’s an 1 1/2 drive but I’ll do it after work.
They closed down our closest Post Office, that was at our local General store, maybe 10k away. Now we have to truck all the way to Bragg Creek AB to get parcels.Jesus, you reporting in from Bear's Butthole Manitoba or something!?
Is there really any big differences between the Gen 1 and 2 in build quality, appearance and reliability? From what I see in the photos on the TI website, they’re all the same, it’s not showing 2 different versions or generations.The confusing part (if Gen 1 or Gen 2) is that the pics on TI website shows both Gen's...the original pic is the Gen 1...but the pics of the shotgun on the tree is Gen 2...or are my eyes playing tricks on me? Obviously hoping for Gen 2...but not caring at this point...loves me some SPAS
The below video shows the differences. I can't remember them all, but off the top of my head they deleted the pic rail compatible front top for a more rounded top that matched the original better, the colour is a better clone-ish match, and so is the stock angle. The stock has a pin or rivet, can't remember which, as the Gen 1s screw kept backing out.Is there really any big differences between the Gen 1 and 2 in build quality and reliability?
Sulun Arms in Turkey, Sulun is one of the better brands.Who makes these?
You’re correct, the one in the video from Atlantic Firearms is the Gen 1 and the one TI is selling is the Gen 2 clone, the easy way to identify that is the stock.Yes, and they did. The gen 2 is a darker metal, doesn't have an adjustable screw on the stock, doesn't have the weird flare on the hinge area, etc.
Yes that’s the Gen 1 in the video.Do you think these guys would be doing a video from 2 weeks ago trying to sell a Gen 1?
No it’s not using the “Super 90 M3” clone receiver.Ah K, so this is not using the 'Super 90 M3' {clone} receiver then..? My 1st thought was that. That M90 is only 20" barrel, so this is 1.5" inch longer.
As per like the original SPAS is 21.5" Nice they kept it true, but I prefer shorter barrels on pistol gripped shot guns. : P Def. am buying one!
I actually had, like 20+ years ago, the SAS pump only, looked like a regular shotgun, but with that same kool metal folding stock.
Whatever receiver has been used, it has a cross bolt safety, side charging handle, and nicely chamfered loading gate port to allow look loading without cutting your fingers.What non-restricted receiver is this gun using?
M3, M4, what?
Spas and hardballer... great combo!alright enough chit-chat, post your spasses
oh and dont mind that weird handgun, totally has nothing to do with anything so just ignore it
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You guys are doing gods work and can’t thank you enough, getting grail gun made my god damn month! Plus the price is impossible to beat!We were the architects for this entire endeavor. US Distributors work on a net 90, where manufacturers have to front the inventory and then wait for payment. We fronted the full development costs in 2024 and despite all of the hardships with the bans and nearly going under, would not let this thing out until it was right. The original design had a plastic heatshield and different handguard, was hideous. We saw the potential, took that and made it into what it was today. The gen 1 seen above was someone at Sulun deciding to start production before we finalized the design, and we flatly refused to accept for all of the obvious reasons. It should also be noted that our MSRP is significantly lower then those selling in the USA...
Unlike the original SPAS12. Much needed improvements. This may very well be that the clone is better than the original?Whatever receiver has been used, it has a cross bolt safety, side charging handle, and nicely chamfered loading gate port to allow look loading without cutting your fingers.
To be fair, I feel that being better than the original is a pretty low bar in this caseUnlike the original SPAS12. Much needed improvements. This may very well be that the clone is better than the original?
Based of the rockies, 6 kids, nice property aways from the city and still some cash left for guns. Man youre crushing it.They closed down our closest Post Office, that was at our local General store, maybe 10k away. Now we have to truck all the way to Bragg Creek AB to get parcels.
We’re at the base of the Rockies - beautiful property but a long haul to civilization.
Bears butthole AB! - should name our property that. Got enough bears.
Isn’t that the same .45 usedSpas and hardballer... great combo!
agreed. I had the opportunity many years ago to have a few original SPAS 12’s in my collection. Very cool guns with a very unique operating system and concept. The few rounds I put through them before selling them off were uneventful and without issues. With that being said , some professional users had concerns with them jamming, double feeding and stove piping.. ammunition used was the usual culprit however. Semi mode likes full power rounds and not so much low recoil /less lethal rounds. This in itself was the premise for the dual semi/pump op system. I truly think operator error was the underlying issue as it was the Egyptians who seemed to have the most problems with the guns in their governments service. I’m thinking from what I’ve seen with Turkish clones , these issues with gas piston redesign should be rectified. Time will tell. Looking forward to re-engaging with the SPAS 12 platform again after almost 35 years!To be fair, I feel that being better than the original is a pretty low bar in this case
We're in the Cascades...same sort of thing, huge acreage and no neighbors. Everyone that does live around here has kids. When we were in the city, NOBODY was having kids anymore, almost like the two things were related.Based of the rockies, 6 kids, nice property aways from the city and still some cash left for guns. Man youre crushing it.
I dont know if its the city attracting these people or making them. Maybe a little bit of both. I couldnt enjoy living somewhere without some mountains and forest either.We're in the Cascades...same sort of thing, huge acreage and no neighbors. Everyone that does live around here has kids. When we were in the city, NOBODY was having kids anymore, almost like the two things were related.
2 of my 4 kids have had kids too, and the 4th is dating. The one that didn't have kids lives in Vancouver and works for the socialist government....and thinks that kids are parasites.
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