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looking at getting into duck hunting this year and was wondering if there was a place around edmonton ab to shoot trap and if there was someone that would like to help out a beginer thanks kevin
I would think skeet would be better for honing shooting skills for duck hunting,
more crossing shots as to trap
Wednesdays from about 4:30 p.m. until dusk at the Edmonton Gun Club at the International airport (same turnoff as the race track, go a little further west and head south at the sign). Lots of people there to help out a beginner.
Sharptail
Murf, what makes you think that a swing through style of shooting is desirable for trap or any other kind of wing shooting? In trap many of the targets are quartering and the muzzle is simply inserted into the lead and maintained. With swing through type shoots you're either hot or you're not. In trap the target speeds are fairly constant so swing through often works. When swinging through targets of different speeds luck seems to play a part. The most successfull shooters are those that determine their swing speed by the target speed. I think that the most successfull shooters are those that instintivley insert their muzzle in the correct lead and keep it there. The best pass duck shooters are those that have practice reading passing ducks and instinctivley go to the appropriate lead and stay there.
I aos find that if I call for the bird with the gun down, I shoot better, because I don't seem as tense, ebrything is flowing.For practice for Parcours de Chasse FITASC, I shoot trap, bunker trap gun down. I shoot both better gun down because, I have to focus on the target. I get a fluid movement with no time to even look at the barrel. The index is extended along the forearm and instinct takes over. 49/50 gun down on American trap is OK by me!
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Henry
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Do you look at the golf ball or the club? You always look at what is moving otherwise, you miss!
That is probably the reason why I suck at golf. I always look at the ball and it never moves until I slice itYou were doing great til you threw in the golf ball example.
No matter what method you use to establish lead you must have hard focus on the target. They may disagree on some things but George and Gil both agree on this.
This all comes from a guy who still likes to use the "dancing banana"
I use theas bait and I am glad it seems work
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I have seen many try to establish a sustained lead and end up stopping the swing just as they shoot. They appear to be rifle shooting and want that picture perfect aim rather than a point.
Murf, I think that you are misunderstanding sustained lead or maintained lead to mean precise lead. Precise lead means measuring the distance between the barrel and the target and to do so means that is where your focus probably is and that is not good. Like Henry says you must be focused on what you plan to hit. Precise lead would result in rifle like shooting and aiming, like you describe. Sustained lead or maintained lead means to start in front of the target or insert in front of the target and stay in front of the target. How much in front? Your brain is capable of doing the calculation for you. That comes with practice which programs your brain to do the calculation once the direction is determined and the focus locked. Like Henry says, when the focus is locked the target will sloooooooow dowwwwwwn. Your brain is capable of doing this calculation about a couple million times faster that I can type it.
I am not nor profess to be an expert at trap but I have been shooting shotguns for over 50 years and when i did a bit more trap a half dozen years ago I kept a 22 or 23 average with the odd 25 included.
I will admit the Swing Through method seems to speed up the game for the first while but then it will slow down. Some advise a Pull Ahead method where the gun is inserted AT the bird, followed for a brief period and then sped up to create the lead. They claim this slows down the perceived speed and allows a longer "sweet spot".
In reality I believe many shooters use a combination of styles depending on light, wind and other factors. At the range I most often shoot the wind causes many targets to dip , dive and dance and such movement is increased as the distance increases. Each night it seems one must adjust their style of shooting.
Whatever it is nice to hit the grove when the targets seem to slow down and break even when one is sure they were slightly off target.
Whichever the method one uses more shooting will give the newcomer a better coordination between his eye and trigger finger.