Splitting the brass

Gatehouse said:
Sorta...

I went outside, and dropped a .223 round into an SKS chamber. Slammed the bolt home and sure enough it closed with a good whack, and stuck int he chamber.

So I rammed the cartridge out with a cleaning rod.

I inserted a primed case in the chamber and whacked the bolt home, and then pulled the tirgger. Sure enough, the primer popped.

I have no doubt that if I was to use a loaded cartridge, the primer woudl ignite the powder, the bullet would rattle down the tube and the jammed and mostly unsupported case would split and stick.:)
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Wow. I never would have believed it. I can't wait to see Tootalls video...I guess we shouldn't be too hard on the guy. If he's new to shooting, things like this can happen...a few years from now he can tell his friends about how much of a newb he was and have a good laugh.

There are two feedback ratings on his profile..one from a member with over 900 posts and the other a newb who joined in January. I wonder which one gave him the ammo????
 
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venom_bullet said:
i though you actully used a loaded case, man his barrel must have taken a good beating.
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I bet it's fine.

I've seen 7mm RM cases shot in 300 WM chambers, and a bunch of other things, including headspace problems. I bet a good cleaning and scrub to get out any brass bits would fix it up fine.:)
 
venom_bullet said:
i though you actully used a loaded case, man his barrel must have taken a good beating.
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I doubt it would do any damage to the bore. The bullet would be very much undersize, so it would just rattle down the bore with very little pressure behind it, as the gas would just blow by. That would be why it wouldn't cycle either.
The case rupture would be a concern for the gases released into the action area. But I would not worry about firing the gun again in the future with correct ammo.

I had a look at the video I mentioned. I had my young daughter taking it for me and she had the camera on wide angle, so all of my basement is in the scene, but there are no close up details. Maybe I'll redo it, but not right now. Sorry
 
If I were this guy; I'd post back that I was only kidding; just to save face; Wow, man, wow! Never in a million years would I believe anyone would do this; I really have seen it all now. I thought I was un-shockable. I stand corrected. I feel kind of bad for him, but only "kinda."
 
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I'm plain just shocked that the thing didn't blow up in your face after the 1st round or using the WRONG ammo in your rifle ... And have just vindicated my faith in the SKS's "massively overbuilt, Russian tank" design in the process ...
 
im just cant believe that some one would do such a stupid thing , not once but three times and then come here and post it . i think its time to lock this thread.
 
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Please stop shooting the newbie

Pants, you blundered like a newbie and got out of it with a smile and I'm happy it came out that way for you.
I'm pretty sure you'll never do that again ;)
Now, I hope the guys here stop bashing you and instead help you stay alive and safe in the Wonderful World of Firearms :p
My offer still stands; PM me and I'll send you some ammo so you can see what shooting an SKS really is.
Have a nice day!
PP.:)
 
PerversPépère said:
Pants, you blundered like a newbie and got out of it with a smile and I'm happy it came out that way for you.
I'm pretty sure you'll never do that again ;)
Now, I hope the guys here stop bashing you and instead help you stay alive and safe in the Wonderful World of Firearms :p
My offer still stands; PM me and I'll send you some ammo so you can see what shooting an SKS really is.
Have a nice day!
PP.:)
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Most sensible post so far.
 
COME ON FELLAS;
He made a serious error, was fortunate enough to walk away.
That said, many years ago we did market a .223 SKS rifle made up by Norinco, they were not very successful.... Many problems....
JOHN
 
anyone know where I can get a good used SKS capable of anything? :D
good to see you walked away thinking the gun was defective and not trying different brands of ammo. things definitly could have been worse. just to confirm, the seller reallt send you 223 with the rifle? that is reallt something. I supose it could have been acidently packed last minute. or grabed in a hurry. who knows.
get the right stuff and try it again after you have the gun inspected.
 
I've fired .270 ammo in .30-'06 chambered guns several times, and never by accident. And .223 in a .222Magnum chamber.
And I've used powder that was totally unknown to work-up loads that functioned safely and accurately.
Some of you have very little idea of what is really possible to do safely.
That being said, I don't recommend everyone do what I do.
Your mileage may vary.
 
if any of my coments sounded like i was bashing you i appologise it was not My intent. I was more surprised that you walked away with all of your fingers and that the wepon survived.
 
had to think about this...

well... yup I can put a wolf .223 round in my SKS mag, and it chambers with a bit of a click. No... I did not fire it...but it makes sense that this is a "safe" error - since:

1) Round size is LESS than bore (Opposite would be very bad) - in essence this just affects any chance of an accurate shot

2) pressure is not built up because of reason #1 - gas escapes around round and blows by ports and does not cycle weapon (which is good since my round did NOT extract that easily and a stove-pipe would be just a horrible end to a shooter day!)

3) bore would not be damaged by a rattler going down the pipe at an under-impressive velocity (The round's velocity is due to the gas pressure behind it and since most of it will escape around the smaller diameter bullet then - the opposite could be fatal! pressure behind a lodged object in the barrel will exceed the bolt's capacity and BLOW!)

So indeed this shooter's luck was with him - had the opposite been possible, then we would have only read the sad headlines.

Dr.O
 
TheIndifferent1 said:
Why? One of the things you get tested on with your PAL is to always check what the firearm is chambered for, and ensure that you are using the correct ammunition.
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I own a Norc SKS-D and the only thing marked on it is:

SKS-D
MADE IN CHINA 00-000000 (serial number)

It isn't even marked Norinco, and no where is it marked 7.62x39mm

So I can see where someone who has little or no knowledge of the SKS would not know which caliber its chambered for.

Most firearms owners don't know 7.62X51mm is .308Win or that 5.56mm is .223 REM or that 9X19mm and 9mm Luger are one in the same.

It is however "funny"... just glad nothing went kaboom!
 
Man, thats just unbeliavable that the gun nor the shooter was destroyed im also surprised the gun managed to chamber the round smoothly enough that the shooter didnt relaize something was wrong:eek:
 
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