do you take the shot?

How sure do you have to be before taking the shot?

  • almost 100%-I have to be almost certain of a clean kill

    Votes: 307 76.8%
  • 75% The odds are in my favor

    Votes: 80 20.0%
  • 50% I have even odds

    Votes: 10 2.5%
  • 25% I hunt on private land,and am good at tracking

    Votes: 3 0.8%

  • Total voters
    400
My ethics question for stubble jumper is, Why use a 300 Rem RUM for big game?

Because,as well as being a hunter,I am also a firearms enthusiast,and I enjoy trying new cartridges.When the 7mmstw was introduced,I had one built,and it is still my favorite cartridge for big game hunting.I still use it for all of my deer pronghorn and bighorn hunting.When the 300 ultramag,came out,I was interested and had one built for me.I find that it provides very quick clean kills on elk and moose,and that is the only game that I have used it for,in the last several years.

Are you trying to cheat and shoot at unspeakable ranges,

I have never taken any shot at any big game animal at any range that I have not practised regularly at the range.The range is where I shoot hundreds of rounds of centerfire ammunition for every one that I shoot at a big game animal.My longest shots to date with the 300ultramag were between 300 and 400 yards.In every case,I had a solid rest,I knew the exact distance,and the animal was standing.In every case,the elk fell on the spot or within a few yards of where it was standing when I shot it.

how much wounding at extreme long range do you do? on property you dont have permission for.

I don't hunt on private property unless I have permission,and I don't shoot at extreme long range.

Are you too lazy to walk a few miles?.

I have hiked through the mountains with a 60lb pack and rifle for a week to ten days at a time hunting bighorn,on several occasions.If you think walking for whitetails is tough try backpacking in the mountains.

If you have to shoot a moose size or larger, more dangerous animal at relative close range( inside 200 yds), most ethical hunters would bump up the caliber to a .338 Win on up to a 45-70 or some other game respecting caliber.

Since when is a 180gr tsx at 3380fps inadequate for any North American game animal?I have taken several moose,fifteen elk,as well as a charging grizzly.How many head of large game have you taken,and what did you use?

Why do you use a 300 RUM? Are you trying to cheat

I use a cartridge that I can consistently make one shot kills on game with,with the shots that I choose to take,unlike you.
 
Holy ####? What happened to this thread and why was i missing out.

For starters,

Methods:

Hmmm, I have hunted some pretty thick stuff. and open plain and mountain.
I take the shot that presents itself, but will not push my gun beyond it's limit.

If I have a shot on a moving back, I usually don't stop to wonder, hmm, at 45 yrds, at 38 degrees quarter with a wind from the southwest...,

I up and shoot

As for what's ethical and so on and fair game etc.

I'm not sure that I could say that Shooting a deer on the run in thick brush is a no no, just not right, we're ethical hunters around here.

with one breath

and advocate for taking pitures of the animals all night and day long , knowing exactly where he was, when and what he eats and what time.
and simply going out and waiting. i'm not sure what it is called, but it is not scouting.
I get #### for my oppinions, and that's fine, but I don't particularly think it's gaming to always sit in a tree over bait, use cameras that take pictures all night and all day, trade off hunting skill for long reaching rifles, etc etc etc.
I, myself "insert personal oppinion" not slagging anyone, do not think that a 600 yrd shot accross a valley at an elk is hunting. I think it is the same as having a rifle hooked up in the woods somewhere and shooting it off your computer by sattelite with the mouse and a click.
Again, my oppinion, but I certainly think a running shot is much more fair play, then a 700 yrd shot on animal that you simply pick out with a spotting scope and put crosshairs on.
I find that the chance of the game actually outsmarting you and getting away, is not even in the hunt for many of you any more. Why would anyone want to increase their odds to the point that they are always victorious over nature. What is the difference in shooting an elk 700 yrds away from mountainside, or 600 yrds overhead from a helicopter. I look at them as them a being very similar

Everyone has his own way, and all fits into hunting. And if you use cameras, 700 yrd rifles and infrared goggles, and it is legal, then you're A O.K. in my book, ... I myself could never do it, nor want to, but that's whats' nice about not being communist.
 
What is the difference in shooting an elk 700 yrds away from mountainside, or 600 yrds overhead from a helicopter. I look at them as them a being very similar

One is illegal in most if not all provinces,the other isn't.
 
Totally misrepresented poll question.

This poll is completely bogus. It's totally misrepresented of the fact of where it was born.
Most who view it will honestly say what you have miss led them to say stubbles

Ask the question as it was truly presented. Not as on you're silly poll.

" Out west in the open plains, would you take a running shot at a deer if you're style of hunting is kicking them out of their hiding place, and a freehand, running shot is all you've got cause that's you're style of hunting".

And then ask if one round would do you for a week?..:slap:
 
Out west in the open plains, would you take a running shot at a deer if you're style of hunting is kicking them out of their hiding place, and a freehand, running shot is all you've got cause that's you're style of hunting".

Regardless of your style of hunting,if 20 shots isn't enough to fill your deer tags,you either need a lot of shooting practice,or you need to try a new style of hunting.

I did notice that you are no longer trying to attack my choice of big game cartridge,and are no longer accusing me of being too lazy to walk.I guess that you need to try yet another angle of attack to try and discredit my hunting ethics.
 
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What, like freezing my gun nutz off, lying in wait in the cold, with a 300 Rum( that burns too much powder with little gain, to do all the work for me. NOT.

I enjoy hunting.

That means walking, Seeing the sights, enjoying time with friends and hunting as it was meant to be.:)
 
What, like freezing my gun nutz off, lying in wait in the cold

Ah,too soft to deal with a little cold?Try investing some time doing some scouting and finding the deers feeding areas and waiting for them.Or if the rut is on rattling in some bucks.


with a 300 Rum( that burns too much powder with little gain, to do all the work for me. NOT.

The gun only fires a bullet,the shooter must properly aim that bullet to hit the animal in the vitals,something that you seem to have a problem with.:p:rolleyes:

That means walking, Seeing the sights,

I do my walking scouting to find the deer,then walking to and from the fields and to and from rattling locations.I even see deer that aren't running.:D

enjoying time with friends

I spend a lot of time hunting with friends,enjoying each others company.

hunting as it was meant to be

According to you,and two other people out of the 200+ that voted.:D
 
Gatehouse, I'm a newbie here but can see a jackass a mile away; Are you one too?

Stubble juniper never owned anyone, far as as I can see.
He's not too strong in the head and many saw that, and just left him to hug his game cameras and long range rifles, and senseless threads and polls.

He clearly has a guilt complex as far as using common rifle calibers for normal hunting procedure.

I do truly wonder how many big game animals he's wounded and left behind cause his "big gun" rifle didn't drop it immediately.
He'll never tell the truth on that!

Never give up a fight,:kickInTheNuts: if you know you're right.
 
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He's not too strong in the head and many saw that, and just left him to hug his game cameras and long range rifles, and senseless threads and polls.

He clearly has a guilt complex as far as using common rifle calibers for normal hunting procedure.

I do truly wonder how many big game animals he's wounded and left behind cause his "big gun" rifle didn't drop it immediately.
He'll never tell the truth on that!

Resorting to name calling and personal attacks,because he has nothing else,the sign of a defeated individual.You don't debate any better than you shoot.:D
 
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Gatehouse, I'm a newbie here but can see a jackass a mile away; Are you one too?

Yes, but that is irrelevant to this thread...:p

Stubble juniper never owned anyone, far as as I can see.

Perhaps you need to invest in glasses?


He's not too strong in the head and many saw that, and just left him to hug his game cameras and long range rifles, and senseless threads and polls.

He clearly has a guilt complex as far as using common rifle calibers for normal hunting procedure.

I do truly wonder how many big game animals he's wounded and left behind cause his "big gun" rifle didn't drop it immediately.
He'll never tell the truth on that!

Out of arguments so you now resort to name calling and calumny.

Sounds like a guy that's been OWNED..:dancingbanana:
 
Hey gatekeeper are you buds with stubby?

Sure looks like.

It'll take a bit more than a few words to own me or anyone else here. PS..
There hasn't been any calumny going on here.

You must be mistaken for calamary, or calamity..:dancingbanana:
 
Hey gatekeeper are you buds with stubby?

Sure looks like.

We've never met.

It'll take a bit more than a few words to own me or anyone else here.

Naw, it's already happened...

PS..
There hasn't been any calumny going on here.

Insinuating that SJ wounded and abandoned animals is indeed "A false statement maliciously made to injure another's reputation"

Unless you have 100% positive proof of such activities, in which case you should present it.
 
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