What a crappy pistol...

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TDC said:
If you're implying that I have or need to maintain some sort of super cool image you would be sadly mistaken. I shoot what I do because it serves my purpose. What others may think about my gear or my setup is a non issue. In the event their opinions did matter, I can articulate and explain with logic why my gear is setup the way it is. None of my gear is setup to achieve an image or impress with looks. I'm impressed with my gear or that of others when it performs in the role it was designed for.
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Sure seems like it to me. And as long as you're paper punching with your restricted firearms, it doesn't matter if you have all kinds of tacticool gear. What's practical about spending thousands on gear only to punch paper?

You need to worry less about others being 'posers' and take a look in the mirror.

If it suits up like Arnold, gears up like Arnold and carries expensive weaponry like Arnold only to punch paper? Then yeah, there's the REAL poser:)
 
Maybe you only punch paper with your firearms. Then again, maybe you're one of the many who feel that "bad things can't or won't happen to me". For some, personal safety and the ability to influence such isn't a privilege afforded to them by others, its a right.

TDC
 
12GaugeShotty said:
How could you possibly say that about Glock? You obviously know nothing about them... And honestly when do you think you would ever shoot 1000 rounds consecutively through one anyway. For regular firing Glocks will out shoot just about any handgun out there. You are clearly ignorant do some research before you start a retarded thread like this.
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Chill your pip dude! We all know Glock's best!:D
 
TDC said:
Maybe you only punch paper with your firearms. Then again, maybe you're one of the many who feel that "bad things can't or won't happen to me". For some, personal safety and the ability to influence such isn't a privilege afforded to them by others, its a right.

TDC
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So you walk around jocked up all the time, 24/7/365, ready to jump into the fight??

I'm as big a personal safety guy as you're likely to meet, with an extensive background in training for the resolution of close range interpersonal conflict (Gunsite, LFI, John Farnam and some others less prominent), and aside from good SA and a few impact tools and edged weapons (and a rifle in the truck most of the time ;) - I figure if it's good enough for a 250 pound quadruped then it's also pretty passable for a 250 pound +/- felonious biped... ), that's about as far as I really feel the need to go. I stay away from "bad" places and don't associate with sketchy folks (except when I have to go to Toronto...) and that prevents many bad things from happening.

Then again you might be the Canadian reincarnation of Jack Bauer...
 
mudgunner49 said:
Then again you might be the Canadian reincarnation of Jack Bauer...
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A fair number on here seem to think that. Train yourself, buy all the cool gear you want, but leave your ego at the mirror. I carry a small BOB and a rifle in my vehicle, other than that I don't see the need. I am more than happy to keep myself out of a gunfight.
 
TDC said:
Maybe you only punch paper with your firearms. Then again, maybe you're one of the many who feel that "bad things can't or won't happen to me". For some, personal safety and the ability to influence such isn't a privilege afforded to them by others, its a right.

TDC
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Current storage laws are in place to durastically delay the time it takes for you to realize you're in danger, go and unlock your firearm, unlock your ammunition, load and persue. While I don't agree with it and there are ways around it, it still is a pain.

I've only punched paper with my restricted firearms. I've hunted with my non restricted firearms. Unless your a LEO or military, I'm willing to guess that you've never shot another human being. Am I wrong? If I'm not, then you only legally punch paper with your restricted firearms.


Fry said:
If it suits up like Arnold, gears up like Arnold and carries expensive weaponry like Arnold only to punch paper? Then yeah, there's the REAL poser:)
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I will openly admit to being a poser. I only bought my Norinco Tokarev to show off at the range. You should see the stares and the "Ooos" and "Wows" I get when I put the pistol down on the shooting bench.

If I could turn back the clock and buy a more staid conservative and practical pistol, would I do it? Well......NO Way! I love the adulation too much and I don't care who knows it!
 
Mudgunner,

Discussion of "illegal" activities is prohibited on CGN but I will tell you that more Canadians carry than you'd think. The "need" for a personal defense firearm is not something you can predict but is most likely something you wish you had when the time comes. The chances of your house burning down are over 1 in a million but I bet you have fire insurance. A long gun in the vehicle is nice but its not going to prevent 3 gangbangers from beating your a$$ and robbing you outside the 7/11.

Fry,

Again, if you feel that a piece of paper and some ignorant legislation is a problem, that's your business. I'll openly admit my hardware is within arms reach and ready for business. It seems many still haven't figured out that the legal battle occurs AFTER YOU SURVIVE THE ENCOUNTER. Why worry about the portion you can't control while ignoring the portion you can? It seems many are more fearful of the law than being beat and/or murdered.

I haven't yet shot another human, but I have a few years left. Then again, most LEO's have never shot anyone. Up until recently most Mil hadn't either. What I can legally shoot and where are very different than what I am capable of shooting and where.

All my guns are setup for practical purposes but that doesn't mean they can't be used for recreational purposes as well. A practical setup is still practical regardless of what the target is.

TDC
 
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"I haven't yet shot another human, but I have a few years left. Then again, most LEO's have never shot anyone. Up until recently most Mil hadn't either. What I can legally shoot and where are very different than what I am capable of shooting and where."

Be careful what you wish for. For most humans with a modicum of conscience the taking of a human life is not something taken lightly. The experience is often life troubling, You won't know what you are or not capable of until faced with the situation despite what your computer keyboard entries seem to indicate.

Take Care

Bob
 
I will openly admit to being a poser. I only bought my Norinco Tokarev to show off at the range. You should see the stares and the "Ooos" and "Wows" I get when I put the pistol down on the shooting bench.

If I could turn back the clock and buy a more staid conservative and practical pistol, would I do it? Well......NO Way! I love the adulation too much and I don't care who knows it!
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Who would be impressed with a Tokaver? :confused: it's a cheapest and probably the ugliest cennterfire handgun you can get! are you sure they didn't say "Eew"? :p
 
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Canuck44 said:
"I haven't yet shot another human, but I have a few years left. Then again, most LEO's have never shot anyone. Up until recently most Mil hadn't either. What I can legally shoot and where are very different than what I am capable of shooting and where."

Be careful what you wish for. For most humans with a modicum of conscience the taking of a human life is not something taken lightly. The experience is often life troubling, You won't know what you are or not capable of until faced with the situation despite what your computer keyboard entries seem to indicate.

Take Care

Bob
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There's no doubt any incident would cause some issues. However, my conscience is only concerned with actions that are less than justified. Removing someone from the gene pool who was/is trying to return the favor is not going to cost me any sleep. The ability to kill is not new. Up until the planet became "civilized" killing was a way of life. The animal kingdom still runs on that principal.

TDC
 
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Fry,

Again, if you feel that a piece of paper and some ignorant legislation is a problem, that's your business. I'll openly admit my hardware is within arms reach and ready for business. It seems many still haven't figured out that the legal battle occurs AFTER YOU SURVIVE THE ENCOUNTER. Why worry about the portion you can't control while ignoring the portion you can? It seems many are more fearful of the law than being beat and/or murdered.

I haven't yet shot another human, but I have a few years left. Then again, most LEO's have never shot anyone. Up until recently most Mil hadn't either. What I can legally shoot and where are very different than what I am capable of shooting and where.

All my guns are setup for practical purposes but that doesn't mean they can't be used for recreational purposes as well. A practical setup is still practical regardless of what the target is.

TDC
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My point is don't judge others, calling them 'posers', when you are one of the biggest ones.

I'm pretty sure you're very much like a few fellows I know who show up to the range decked out in tacticool gear pretending to be swat wannabes. While it's nice to have nice gear, of someone has 'look a like' gear, you can't degrade him for it. I could call you a poser for not using an IBM, or a Ford, or a number of things.

You can also have all the training in the world, but if you've never been shot at, you do not know how you will react. Have you ever been shot at?
 
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Fry said:
My point is don't judge others, calling them 'posers', when you are one of the biggest ones.

I'm pretty sure you're very much like a few fellows I know who show up to the range decked out in tacticool gear pretending to be swat wannabes. While it's nice to have nice gear, of someone has 'look a like' gear, you can't degrade him for it. I could call you a poser for not using an IBM, or a Ford, or a number of things.

You can also have all the training in the world, but if you've never been shot at, you do not know how you will react. Have you ever been shot at?
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Fry you still haven't figured it out. The right and freedom to run ones mouth and pass judgment is not something I or anyone else has exclusive access to. If someone's opinion bothers you so much, you must really have a hard time with life. You are judged everyday for nearly everything you do.

As far as dress up goes, its really only posing if you don't run the gear. I run my gear. I'll admit I don't run it in the role it was intended as shooting other humans is generally frowned upon and I'm not a serving member of our Armed Forces. As for "look alike gear" its use is no different than the original. The difference is how or if the owner uses it. The guy in full kit spending all day behind the bench would be a poser regardless of the brand of kit he runs. Of course this is simply my opinion not scientific fact.

As I mentioned previously my gear is setup around practical applications not a fantasy nor are they setup as replicas of past or present issued hardware. That being said I fail to see how I would be "posing" if the basis of my gear selection is rooted in logic?

As for being shot at, yes I have(sort of). By someone intent on killing me? I would like to think my buddies weren't aiming for me;). Standing down range is nothing new for myself. I know, some will be tossing flags on the play crying "unsafe actions" or "illegal range procedure". For me, I want to know what it sounds like when you're being shot at, so I stand down range while a buddy drops rounds close by into the target. I can tell you that 5.56/.223 at 200 yards sounds like a cannon with a nice snap as the bullet passes by. .308 at 200 yards is almost loud enough for hearing protection. 17HMR sounds very similar to 5.56/223. 22 LR is almost silent and 9mm/.45ACP at 25-50 yards isn't overly loud in an outdoor environment. Would I engage in such activities with everyone, HELL NO! The few I trust to shoot while I'm down range are the few I trust with my life and vise versa.

Fry you are correct, until I'm ever faced with someone intent on killing me I can't guarantee how I will react. However, with training I can eliminate many of the possibilities and maintain the advantage over most who lack any training.

TDC
 
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TDC said:
...You are judged everyday for nearly everything you do...

Ain't that the truth - as you will be judged for this posting and it's more than just apparent idiocy. I don't think that Fry is the one who "just doesn't get it"...:bangHead:

As for being shot at, yes I have(sort of). By someone intent on killing me? I would like to think my buddies weren't aiming for me;).

Doesn't count then...:rolleyes:

Fry you are correct,

Yes - yes he is...

...until I'm ever faced with someone intent on killing me I can't guarantee how I will react. However, with training I can eliminate many of the possibilities and maintain the advantage over most who lack any training. :jerkit:

TDC
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Dude - you need to check your headspace...:onCrack:
 
Since this thread has nothing to do with Glocks anymore and has degenerated into another TDC vs. the world topic.................locked.
 
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