What a crappy pistol...
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The 50 is for real...Real f*cking retards who have nothing better to do than pose at the range. The calibre serves no purpose and the conversion is not from Glock, its a BS aftermarket gimmick geared for morons. Sorry, was I little too honest about the product? Don't waste your time with ignorant myths and beliefs("bigger is better"). Learn to shoot and run a standard calibre, you can even run the one shot man stopper .45ACP.
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mudgunner49
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Really??
So the idea of buying a handgun in a different caliber just because you want one is moronic?? That attitude is as bad as the anti's who think that none of us should have guns - you should can your superior "I learned it on the Errornet and am therefore right" attitude and stick it on a shelf somewhere. So far as I am able to determine from your profile and posting history, you are not an authority on personal defence or real-life application fo force and should quit touting yourself as such. What you espouse is an opinion and nothing more, though some of it is supportable with cut and paste data from somewhere "out there".Until you have "been there/done that" you should preface your rantings with the disclaimer that what follows is an opinion and nothing more.
For the record, I am acquainted with (and consider a close personal friend) an individual who both owns and regularly shoots a .50GI and it is his learned opinion that it is a very valid if somewhat esoteric ballistic solution. He is a Federal LEO south of the border with an extensive previous career in Army Special Operations (real, not imagined...) and in the words of others that I know and respect has "killed more people by accident than most have intentionally...", so I'd consider him a little bit more qualified to comment on the subject than you are.
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blake
mudgunner49
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So you're volunteering to stand downrange and catch one in your hand and then laugh about it???
blake
mudgunner49
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Pupose?!?
BWAhahahahahahahahah!!!
I guess I could have avoided the verbosity and vitriole and summed my entire post up with those few words - but why say "jam" when you can say "marmalade"...
Thanks for the Cole's Notes version!!!
blake
The constant "I gotta have it" syndrome on this site is akin to that of teenage girls dreaming about the next colour of eye shadow or the latest designer jeans. Neither group has a use for the items they lust for, but somehow it must make them cool to simply possess such items.
By purpose Joe NWT, I'm referring to a practical use that would validate the need for a dimished capacity .50Gi cartridge. Its not very well suited for competitive shooting due to reduced capacity and scarcity of loaded ammo or brass. As a defensive cartridge its the answer to a question no one has asked. If you're into precision target shooting, you have the wrong system to begin with. So what exactly is the purpose for such a cartridge?? The answer is nothing. Its a poser piece designed to "impress" at the range. Much like a Desert Eagle or 500 S&W.
Mudgunner,
Your opinion is great, and its all yours, as is mine. Your point regarding your ex-mil/LEO friend could very well have merit. Unfortunately, being ex-mil(SF or not) or LE doesn't necessarily translate into one being knowledgeable about all things related to ones profession. There are stupid soldiers and stupid cops, just like there are stupid waiters, taxi drivers, and plumbers.
In my opinion, the cartridge has near zero practical use. If anyone can articulate why the 50 GI is a better option than what is currently available I'm all ears.
TDC
By purpose Joe NWT, I'm referring to a practical use that would validate the need for a dimished capacity .50Gi cartridge. Its not very well suited for competitive shooting due to reduced capacity and scarcity of loaded ammo or brass. As a defensive cartridge its the answer to a question no one has asked. If you're into precision target shooting, you have the wrong system to begin with. So what exactly is the purpose for such a cartridge?? The answer is nothing. Its a poser piece designed to "impress" at the range. Much like a Desert Eagle or 500 S&W.
Mudgunner,
Your opinion is great, and its all yours, as is mine. Your point regarding your ex-mil/LEO friend could very well have merit. Unfortunately, being ex-mil(SF or not) or LE doesn't necessarily translate into one being knowledgeable about all things related to ones profession. There are stupid soldiers and stupid cops, just like there are stupid waiters, taxi drivers, and plumbers.
In my opinion, the cartridge has near zero practical use. If anyone can articulate why the 50 GI is a better option than what is currently available I'm all ears.
TDC
WTF? This isn't a mentality of this site, it's everywhere, every day in society: cars, guitars, girls, shoes, hats, shirts, watches, DVDs, BluRays, TVs, stereos, cell phones, computers. It's called consumer culture.
Besides, who cares what is practical for what, I don't, but I'm also not constantly #####ing about ####. Shut up, vote Conservative and put a ####ing CPC sign on your lawn for the love of gun rights.
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So according to you all we should ever buy is race guns in 9mm or some other "useful" cartridge? No thanks I will buy what I please. Seriously where do you get off telling us we are "posing" and all that other BS? To each their own IMO.
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I have only one comment. WTF business is it of yours what I want for a handgun/cartridge? Here's a news flash for ya, as it stands, there is no practical use for handguns in Canada! Just like alot of other things. Movie theaters, for instance. Why go to a theater when eventually you will see it on TV? For entertainment? Well perhaps someone could be entertained by a 50GI at the range! Which in reality, is the only practical reason for a handgun in Canada.
Now if you want to delve deeper into the practical application of handguns for self defense, are you still defending yourself when a diminished round capacity comes into play? Possibly. I would suggest knowing what to do with the first half dozen rounds of any cartridge to be far more important that having the next half dozen in most defensive situations.
Anti's speak of the practicality of guns. That's why we have 12(6), (5), etc. And we now have very little practical use for .25 and .32 caliber rounds either.
Would you *practical* us all to the point where we all shoot the same model gun in 9mm?I'm not saying don't get one, feel free to run what you will. My point is that from a logical and practical side of the shooting community the cartridge is a waste of time. I am in no way implying that impractical or "giggle" products not be available, quite the opposite. My opinion or that of anyone else has no weight in determining what should or should not be available. Restrictions of any sort need to be justified.
The anti's BS rant about the "practicality" of .25acp and .32 acp is not based on fact, its based on BS much like most of the firearms act. The comparison between their stance and mine is not equal.
Joe NWT, in the eyes of the government you're right, handguns(any guns) have no use in society. In the eyes of a free thinker who isn't governed by paper, a handgun(or rifle or shotgun) has several practical uses.
There seems to be a lot of distaste regarding my opinion. Some feel it is non of my business to dictate what they should or should not own, and rightfully so. However, I still see many blindly following laws laid out by those who feel strongly against firearms and often fail to justify their position. I also see many who constantly try to appease the anti's by not engaging in certain activities or not shooting at humanoid targets. So why the double standard??
B,
I won't get into the race gun discussion but I will tell you that in mo opinion race guns are not practical. as for posing, its very common. When an individual purchases an item without a specific goal or task in mind, its called posing. Here's a couple of examples: The guy who purchases a "performance/high end" pistol(race gun or not) and only shoots paper a few times a year slow fire from a stationary position. Same guy who buys an AR15 invests a small fortune in go-fast accessories to shoot paper from the bench. Same guy who purchases a Chinese knock off of an Aimpoint or the Bushnell red-dot that looks like an ACOG. The guy who owns a 37mm/40mm grenade launcher. What would be the reason for this? Posing. There isn't any practical purpose for the above unless you're going for looks. Nothing wrong with that, just accept that you're a poser and enjoy building look alike firearms.
TDC
The anti's BS rant about the "practicality" of .25acp and .32 acp is not based on fact, its based on BS much like most of the firearms act. The comparison between their stance and mine is not equal.
Joe NWT, in the eyes of the government you're right, handguns(any guns) have no use in society. In the eyes of a free thinker who isn't governed by paper, a handgun(or rifle or shotgun) has several practical uses.
There seems to be a lot of distaste regarding my opinion. Some feel it is non of my business to dictate what they should or should not own, and rightfully so. However, I still see many blindly following laws laid out by those who feel strongly against firearms and often fail to justify their position. I also see many who constantly try to appease the anti's by not engaging in certain activities or not shooting at humanoid targets. So why the double standard??
B,
I won't get into the race gun discussion but I will tell you that in mo opinion race guns are not practical. as for posing, its very common. When an individual purchases an item without a specific goal or task in mind, its called posing. Here's a couple of examples: The guy who purchases a "performance/high end" pistol(race gun or not) and only shoots paper a few times a year slow fire from a stationary position. Same guy who buys an AR15 invests a small fortune in go-fast accessories to shoot paper from the bench. Same guy who purchases a Chinese knock off of an Aimpoint or the Bushnell red-dot that looks like an ACOG. The guy who owns a 37mm/40mm grenade launcher. What would be the reason for this? Posing. There isn't any practical purpose for the above unless you're going for looks. Nothing wrong with that, just accept that you're a poser and enjoy building look alike firearms.
TDC
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Wow, you're an idiot. If I want to buy a cannon and only fire it once a decade, that's none of your business, nor is it your place to pass judgment. We're all on the same side here. Any caliber is a good caliber!
I would rather have 30 million handgun owners going to the range once per year in this country than a few million who regularly go.
From a logical and practical side, the cartridge is a waste of time? Why is it a 'waste of time' ? Are you under the influence of something? Seriously!
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Who are you to judge? Who cares if Joe schlub makes a scope from a papertowel roll?
Maybe he likes collecting Militaria? Maybe he enjoys weaponry?
With this line of thinking... Why keep most prohibs? You can't really fire them anyway, so why keep them? This isn't logical, no. Why keep any firearm you cannot fire? What's the purpose?
Maybe he wants to!? It's his right. Who are you to judge who should own what? This line of thinking is just as ridiculous as the "you can't have (gun/accessory/evil thing) because you shouldn't, because it isn't logical, because it makes you a 'poser' (How old are you?).
That's our problem now. We need more firearms owners, regardless of the frequency of range visits. There is strength in numbers and your ranting can only cause division. There's opinion, there's fact and there's just incoherent ridiculous babbling. Find out which category your post falls under.
Wow...Some folks really have thin skin. My opinion and my freedom to pass judgment is not mine alone. Feel free to pass judgment of your own. Oh, hold on, you folks just did! If you can't handle a little criticism or someone's opinion, you're in for a rough life.
The point made about those who collect is valid, I see nothing wrong with it. I prefer to shoot my guns as opposed to stare at them but hey, its a valid point.
Fry, can you articulate or validate why 50GI would be a better choice over the current offerings? I cannot, I see no advantage to the round and therefore it solves no problem. If it fails to solve a problem, its strictly a toy.
As far as prohibs go, your comment confirms my point above(where I lost you Joe NWT). The belief that I have no right to dictate what should or should not be purchased/used/owned/available is valid and I agree. In the same breathe you people are willing to comply with ignorant policy written on PAPER without so much as a peep. Prohibs are "not permitted at the range". Only if you're ignorant enough to comply with the wishes of ill informed clowns whom are supposed to be working for you. Fry you illustrate that owning item X is "his right" but you eagerly give up your right to use item "X" due to ignorant legislation. SO I have to ask, will you folks really fight for your rights, or will you continue to cower under the "long arm of the law"?
Again, nowhere did I ever say that any accessory, firearm, tool, toy, etc etc be unavailable or "banned". I could really care less what people own or why they own it. I expressed my opinion based on logic and some folks got all bent out of shape over it. The accessory in question as well as many others have little practical use but intrigue many. To each their own.
TDC
The point made about those who collect is valid, I see nothing wrong with it. I prefer to shoot my guns as opposed to stare at them but hey, its a valid point.
Fry, can you articulate or validate why 50GI would be a better choice over the current offerings? I cannot, I see no advantage to the round and therefore it solves no problem. If it fails to solve a problem, its strictly a toy.
As far as prohibs go, your comment confirms my point above(where I lost you Joe NWT). The belief that I have no right to dictate what should or should not be purchased/used/owned/available is valid and I agree. In the same breathe you people are willing to comply with ignorant policy written on PAPER without so much as a peep. Prohibs are "not permitted at the range". Only if you're ignorant enough to comply with the wishes of ill informed clowns whom are supposed to be working for you. Fry you illustrate that owning item X is "his right" but you eagerly give up your right to use item "X" due to ignorant legislation. SO I have to ask, will you folks really fight for your rights, or will you continue to cower under the "long arm of the law"?
Again, nowhere did I ever say that any accessory, firearm, tool, toy, etc etc be unavailable or "banned". I could really care less what people own or why they own it. I expressed my opinion based on logic and some folks got all bent out of shape over it. The accessory in question as well as many others have little practical use but intrigue many. To each their own.
TDC
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You keep asking this, and they keep responding "it doesn't matter if there's a practical reason or not, I want it." Wanting something is reason enough to buy it. Nobody has to justify their preferences.
We buy impractical things all the times. Overpowered cars (no, you don't need more than 100HP, you want more than 100HP), expensive shoes, you name it. If you like it and and can justify the purchase to yourself, then that's all you need. Someone else might think it's useless or wildly extravagant, but who the hell cares?
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