Don't shoot strange-looking escaped deer, Ontario sanctuary urges

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http://www.cbc.ca/canada/ottawa/story/2008/11/07/ot-deer-081107.html

Don't shoot strange-looking escaped deer, Ontario sanctuary urges

Six unusual-looking deer are at large near Kingston, Ont., after vandals apparently struck the animal sanctuary where they live.

Wendy Workman, co-founder of the Fallow Deer Reserve, is asking hunters and other people to keep an eye out for the missing deer, which belong to a species native to Europe.

"We're trying to get the word out to everyone to basically not shoot the deer," said Workman Friday. "They're owned by us, so it would be akin to someone coming in and shooting your cattle."

The missing animals are smaller than the white-tailed deer native to eastern Ontario. Fallow deer have brown fur with white spots even during adulthood, and all the missing deer are bucks, so they have paddle-like antlers similar to moose antlers.

Workman said she found out the deer were missing after someone called to her say they were spotted nearby.

She discovered that a hole had been made using bolt-cutters in the 2.4 metre-high fence around a 4.5 hectare enclosure that houses 13 of the deer.

Seven were quickly recaptured, but six are still missing, although many have been spotted nearby. Workman is hoping to get hold of a tranquilizer gun to help in the recapture of the frightened animals.

Workman believes that the vandals who cut the hole in the fence also chased the deer out, as they would be reluctant to leave on their own.
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Not like they are going to breed while on the loose. And they don't look like a whitetail at all. Still, some dink will likely take a crack at one.
 
People have shot cattle, donkeys, hell even other humans and pled that they had mistaken them for deer. These babies are in a bad spot if you ask me. Lots of guys don't give a rats a** if they were farm raised or not. I fear if it looks remotely like an edible meal, the lead will fly from some ####.
 
A point nobody's really raised is that this flagrant vandalism and destruction of property wasn't done by hunters and shooters, but rather by some left-wing "eco-terrorist". PETA, Greenpeace, etc. types.

Why nobody rags on these idiots for the laws they break - constantly - is absolutely confounding.

-M
 
I think I found one of those deer....
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One more reason to OUTLAW farmed deer. Who knows what disease(s) they might pass to the wild deer, or other animals? Game farms are bad news, period. And I agree that it was likely an "eco-terrorist" who cut the fence, if this is not an insurance scam.

These are NOT cows or domesticated animals, they are FARMED DEER, which MAY pose problems for our absolutely invaluable wildlife. Ask the guys out west who are seeing diseases in wildlife brought on by escaped game farm animals. Want some CWD with your venison jerky?

And BTW I live in Kingston and you can absolutely count on it, if I see any or all of those deer, I WILL shoot them. Whether any of you like that or not, I don't give a damn. They are VARMINTS, nothing more and nothing less, and do not belong in the wild. Period, end of discussion as far as I am concerned. Too bad for the lady who chose to engage in an activity that might have negative consequences for native species.

Doug
 
Doug said:
One more reason to OUTLAW farmed deer. Who knows what disease(s) they might pass to the wild deer, or other animals? Game farms are bad news, period. And I agree that it was likely an "eco-terrorist" who cut the fence, if this is not an insurance scam.

These are NOT cows or domesticated animals, they are FARMED DEER, which MAY pose problems for our absolutely invaluable wildlife. Ask the guys out west who are seeing diseases in wildlife brought on by escaped game farm animals. Want some CWD with your venison jerky?

And BTW I live in Kingston and you can absolutely count on it, if I see any or all of those deer, I WILL shoot them. Whether any of you like that or not, I don't give a damn. They are VARMINTS, nothing more and nothing less, and do not belong in the wild. Period, end of discussion as far as I am concerned. Too bad for the lady who chose to engage in an activity that might have negative consequences for native species.

Doug
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I'm of the same opinion as you as far as farmed deer are concerned Doug, but
the Government views them as privately owned livestock, same as escaped bison, lamas or cattle.
Hope everything works out for you if you do shoot one and get charged, myself, I wouldn't want the court headache.......
Cat
 
Doug said:
One more reason to OUTLAW farmed deer. Who knows what disease(s) they might pass to the wild deer, or other animals? Game farms are bad news, period. And I agree that it was likely an "eco-terrorist" who cut the fence, if this is not an insurance scam.

These are NOT cows or domesticated animals, they are FARMED DEER, which MAY pose problems for our absolutely invaluable wildlife. Ask the guys out west who are seeing diseases in wildlife brought on by escaped game farm animals. Want some CWD with your venison jerky?

And BTW I live in Kingston and you can absolutely count on it, if I see any or all of those deer, I WILL shoot them. Whether any of you like that or not, I don't give a damn. They are VARMINTS, nothing more and nothing less, and do not belong in the wild. Period, end of discussion as far as I am concerned. Too bad for the lady who chose to engage in an activity that might have negative consequences for native species.

Doug
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While I have the same views on farmed game animals as you, I have a feeling that the courts don't share our views.
 
back to whammy (and catnthehatt)...........I would not intend to find out what the courts might think. I do not report to the courts when I shoot any other varmint, and other than stating what I WOULD DO in a hypothetical situation, I cannot think that I would report the shooting of a "fallow" varmint either. Nor would I think it a good idea to (for example) blather on about it here. S/S/S and all that good stuff, or as I am fond of saying, the maximum number of people who can keep a secret is ONE. ;)

I think I am going to see what the local media has reported about all of this....

Doug
 
Doug said:
back to whammy (and catnthehatt)...........I would not intend to find out what the courts might think. I do not report to the courts when I shoot any other varmint, and other than stating what I WOULD DO in a hypothetical situation, I cannot think that I would report the shooting of a "fallow" varmint either. Nor would I think it a good idea to (for example) blather on about it here. S/S/S and all that good stuff, or as I am fond of saying, the maximum number of people who can keep a secret is ONE. ;)

I think I am going to see what the local media has reported about all of this....

Doug
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Good point, I hadn't really thought about it like that.
I ain't ever reported my gopher kills to a CO.
 
I would think there is some law against shooting domestic livestock.......cows aren't native either but you can't shoot them if they escape. The other danger with shooting is that is they happened to be diseased as you are worried about, leaving a rotting carcass could be far more dangerous! Something to think about before taking matters into your own hands!
 
Ask the guys out west who are seeing diseases in wildlife brought on by escaped game farm animals.
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While a common belief, there is no scientific evidence to support that.
 
back to sheephunter...........it is being reported as fact here by our provincial hunting association. I did most certainly understand that CWD in particular had been transmitted to wildlife by escaped farmed elk. If this is not true, I would very much welcome a link to a scientific source.......with much thanks!

Doug
 
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