What makes a good hunter

How about clubbing a seal in the head,they call that a Seal hunt.Legal! Ethical?

Apparently you don't think so.

While I am hesitant to draw comparisons between a commercial harvest and recreational hunting, there are a couple of things that stand out that might help you understand ethics.

From the seal's point of view that is no worse a way top die than that provided at the hands of nature. There is little chance to escape badly wounded. From the sealer's point of view, the hunt provides them with revenue they need to take care of their families, and earning money is more ethical than being on the dole.
 
Hunting was always/still is a means to slap some hunks of bloody meat on the table for the wife to cook and feed to the family.

Sport hunting, I still dont completely understand. You want to make it a sport,sharpen a stick and go after your pray. But hey, if you get out of it what you want and are not hurting anyone along the way, go for it. God bless and God's speed.

If a man(person) manages to get meat in his belly then he is a good successful hunter and shouldn't be belittled by "sport" hunters.
 
I don't care how many seals you club in the head.It is not seal hunting,it is seal clubbing.Can they get away?If you need money, by your statement, it would be ethical to harvest bear parts to sell??Better to not be on the dole?

So lets consider the typical big game hunt. Once you have located your animal, you put the cross hair behind the shoulder and have pressed the trigger, why would you want the animal to have a chance to get away? In my experience of hunting seals with a rifle, it is very difficult to stalk within very close range of them or they are down their breathing hole in the ice. A polar bear will tell you the same thing.

I have no problem with a professional trapper or hunter selling bear parts to supplement his income, nor do I have a problem with a sport hunter legally selling bear parts to help pay for his hunt. I do have a problem with poaching which is another issue but it is because of poaching that the ban on selling the gall was passed.
 
I don't care how many seals you club in the head.It is not seal hunting,it is seal clubbing.Can they get away?If you need money, by your statement, it would be ethical to harvest bear parts to sell??Better to not be on the dole?

Is leaving a gall-bladder in a gut-pile somehow more more ethical than selling it to someone who wants it? How is selling the gall bladder different than selling furs, which can include bear? Why is it illegal to waste meat but wasteing the gall-bladder is required?Just wonderin'.
 
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Ethical hunting must also be able to adapt to the terrain you hunt in. I have hunted from vehicles, ambush and "ethical" walk and stalk. I have enjoyed all ways of hunting equally. Which is the most ethical, shooting from a vehicle where you have a solid rest and can make sure of shot placement or stalking a gemsbuck in the Kalahari and then wounding it, because you had to take a 300 yds shot shooting over your elwbows? "Ethical" is in the eye of the beholder!
 
Of course not everyone agrees on what's "good" and "bad" but I believe that RESPECT says it all.......

The laws!
The animals and their habitat
Bag limits
Safety regulations
Landowners
Fellow hunters
etc...
etc...
(Not nescessarily in that order....)
And another important factor is: FUN!!!
 
Whatever works legally I guess.

I think guys dressed in full camo driving up logging roads on quads they never get down from look idiots, but it seems to work for them, so whatever ...
 
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Someone who is legal, ethical, and err's on the side of caution. Respecting others property and rights of access are also big on my list.
 
I was talking about clubbing baby seals, not hunting mature animals with a rifle.I have no experience in either.

Gotta find the seals. Gotta run out onto ice floes to club them. Gotta whack them before they jump in the water and swim away. There is a challenge to it. It's as much hunting as netting herring is fishing. Just commercialized and for profit.
 
Im sorry guys my question wasn't supposed to be about the difference between road hunter and non road hunters, it was more to find out if you can be a successful hunter without bring game home.

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The answer to that question would be NO. If you go into the woods, and come back with game, then you are a hunter. If you go into the woods, and come back with nothing, you are a hiker. If you go out into the woods, and come out with several animals, then go home, throw the meat on the table, and have the wife cook them up into something fantastic, then ravish your wife, and put her to sleep, then go outside and have a beer & a smoke, then...THEN, you area the GREAT WHITE HUNTER! God made the rules of "Man Law", so don't blame me. :)
 
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Based on some posts we should go back to market Hunting to pay for our Hunting trips?????

In much of the world game is bought and sold. Europeans have been selling game meat before there was a Canada. To a certain extent it is allowed here too. You can sell horns, hides and antlers, but for some curious reason not meat or bear gall bladders. The difference escapes me. Its hard to judge right and wrong from a narrow viewpoint. I've hunted in areas that thought hunting over a waterhole was considered terribley unsporting, but spotlighting was OK. Using dogs for some things in some places is illegal, but a few miles or provinces over it's normal. About the only thing that is consistent is that where ever you go there will be someone that thinks that those who do things differently than them are wrong. The best rule of thumb is that something bothers you, don't do it.
 
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