Don't shoot strange-looking escaped deer, Ontario sanctuary urges
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I'd have to draw the line right about where the gov. told me to I suppose.
I assume with sheep and goats you are of course refering to the domesticated versions? Does that mean you are telling me those little dwarf albino goats aren't from the natural pot groves in BC?? hehehehe
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smokin'stoegie
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A little basic knowledge of biology is a powerful thing.
Ah yes, another internet-genius. Try and ask a simple question on a forum and get attacked by trolls.
So the
still stands.
..the anonymity of a keyboard
Ah yes, another internet-genius. Try and ask a simple question on a forum and get attacked by trolls.
So the
still stands...the anonymity of a keyboard
A little basic knowledge of biology is a powerful thing.
Ah yes, another internet-genius. Try and ask a simple question on a forum and get attacked by trolls.
So the
..the anonymity of a keyboard
Sorry I figured most people would know that male deer can't breed with each other.
Never underestimate I guess.
The deer are pests/varmints whatever you want to call them and I am with Doug on this one. Whats the difference between this situation and oops! I accidently released a non native species of fish or maybe birds into the wild population? These animals DO NOT belong anywhere but in their native homes, on the internet and in books.
From yesterday's edition of the Kingston Whig Standard. You will see that the MNR are indeed concerned that the escaped exotics will have an impact on wild deer.
Escaped deer dies after being shot with dart
Reserve founder suspects heart attack
Posted By ROB TRIPP, WHIG-STANDARD POLICE REPORTER
Posted 1 day ago
One of four deer on the loose from a Kingston wildlife preserve died yesterday when it was shot with a tranquillizer dart.
"It's been pretty devastating for us," said Wendy Workman, one of the founders of the Fallow Deer Reserve on Florida Road, about 15 kilometres northwest of downtown Kingston.
Operators of the reserve and other volunteers have been trying since last Thursday to recapture the animals that escaped after vandals cut open the fence that surrounds the four-hectare compound.
Workman said they decided to try tranquillizing one of the deer that had been staying in an area roughly two kilometres from the reserve.
After it was darted by Kingston animal control officer Ken Gilpin, it was moved into a horse trailer but died within minutes.
"He probably had a heart attack," Workman said.
Veterinarians had warned reserve operators that tranquillizing the animals was risky since they are already under considerable stress.
"We don't know what to do now," Workman said.
The remaining three deer on the loose are still in the area.
The reserve was home to 13 Fallow deer, a breed that is native to Europe. They were brought to Canada to be raised as livestock for meat.
The reserve operates as a charity, allowing tours during the summer.
Workman said Ministry of Natural Resources officials have asked the reserve operators to capture or kill the deer as quickly as possible because they don't want them mixing with native deer.
Escaped deer dies after being shot with dart
Reserve founder suspects heart attack
Posted By ROB TRIPP, WHIG-STANDARD POLICE REPORTER
Posted 1 day ago
One of four deer on the loose from a Kingston wildlife preserve died yesterday when it was shot with a tranquillizer dart.
"It's been pretty devastating for us," said Wendy Workman, one of the founders of the Fallow Deer Reserve on Florida Road, about 15 kilometres northwest of downtown Kingston.
Operators of the reserve and other volunteers have been trying since last Thursday to recapture the animals that escaped after vandals cut open the fence that surrounds the four-hectare compound.
Workman said they decided to try tranquillizing one of the deer that had been staying in an area roughly two kilometres from the reserve.
After it was darted by Kingston animal control officer Ken Gilpin, it was moved into a horse trailer but died within minutes.
"He probably had a heart attack," Workman said.
Veterinarians had warned reserve operators that tranquillizing the animals was risky since they are already under considerable stress.
"We don't know what to do now," Workman said.
The remaining three deer on the loose are still in the area.
The reserve was home to 13 Fallow deer, a breed that is native to Europe. They were brought to Canada to be raised as livestock for meat.
The reserve operates as a charity, allowing tours during the summer.
Workman said Ministry of Natural Resources officials have asked the reserve operators to capture or kill the deer as quickly as possible because they don't want them mixing with native deer.
Want a hint?
Her fault or not she should be fined and pay for the cost to the MNR the capture these deer.
Although I have a degree of agreement with this statement there have been several very successful introductions of foreign species. Rainbow trout are now found in a much wider area than their natural habitat. Pheasants and hungarian partridges are not native to North America.
Canadian beaver are decimating Patagonia. Exotic introductions of wildlife have devastated wildlife and habitat in Australia. Starlings have out competed songbirds in north America. Goats, rats, and feral house cats have destroyed wildlife on the Galapagos. Rainbow trout have supplanted other fish species that existed before their introduction. And introduced rainbows have interbred with the native subspecies of rainbow so the native species is lost genetically. In some parts of Alberta, the pheasant release program has been a very expensive coyote feeding program.
The movement of Bison from Camp Wainwright to Wood Buffalo park moved anthrax as well.
Just because an exotic species is successful doesn't mean that the habitat and natural species don't get impacted to some extent.
Just imagine how the introduction of black or Grizzly bears into the Parkland of large cities would impact those cities. The homeless would find a reason to get homes, no gangs would wonder the streets, bears would take care of drug addicts passed out in back allies. They would out compete those folks who find food by dumpster diving. The feral pet and stray pet population would drop - people would keep an eye on their pets. Youth wouldn't hang out on street corners - all sorts of benefits.
All those positive things...
smokin'stoegie
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Not like they are going to breed while on the loose. And they don't look like a whitetail at all. Still, some dink will likely take a crack at one.
How do you know that?
Wasn't that originally the issue with pen-raised "wild" turkeys?__________________
Workman said Ministry of Natural Resources officials have asked the reserve operators to capture or kill the deer as quickly as possible because they don't want them mixing with native deer.
This was the point I had tried to make earlier before an internet-troll attempted to be witty and humourous
. Even the MNR has concerns of their escape.
How do you know that?
Wasn't that originally the issue with pen-raised "wild" turkeys?__________________
Workman said Ministry of Natural Resources officials have asked the reserve operators to capture or kill the deer as quickly as possible because they don't want them mixing with native deer.
This was the point I had tried to make earlier before an internet-troll attempted to be witty and humourous
. Even the MNR has concerns of their escape.
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and I just punched my last rifle season tag, might have to get up that way and have me a look-see where those critters are hiding.........
Being absolutely respectful of private property and farmer's fences, of course! NOBODY that I know or hunt with would knowingly trespass, and NOBODY would cut anybody's fences, no matter what kind of dickweed owned the fence.
But it might be a hoot to shoot a varmint that could be eaten.........
And enjoyed too! I do like racoon (sweet and sour) and have eaten groundhog (not again unless I am starving), never tried crow, and I am in no hurry to taste coyote. But maybe these ungulate varmints would be a nice change...............
Doug
Being absolutely respectful of private property and farmer's fences, of course! NOBODY that I know or hunt with would knowingly trespass, and NOBODY would cut anybody's fences, no matter what kind of dickweed owned the fence.
But it might be a hoot to shoot a varmint that could be eaten.........
And enjoyed too! I do like racoon (sweet and sour) and have eaten groundhog (not again unless I am starving), never tried crow, and I am in no hurry to taste coyote. But maybe these ungulate varmints would be a nice change...............Doug
Not like they are going to breed while on the loose. And they don't look like a whitetail at all. Still, some dink will likely take a crack at one.
How do you know that?
Wasn't that originally the issue with pen-raised "wild" turkeys?__________________
Workman said Ministry of Natural Resources officials have asked the reserve operators to capture or kill the deer as quickly as possible because they don't want them mixing with native deer.
This was the point I had tried to make earlier before an internet-troll attempted to be witty and humourous
You don't like wit and humor?
MNR has concerns about disease spread not interbreeding which is what you were indicating in your post. I responded with a smilie to show that I wasn't serious and you got all pissy.
Simmer Francis.
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