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I am looking for a new IPSC recipe using a 124gr bullet with tight group. Up until recently I've been using 147gr but would like something a little less "snappy". Anyone willing to share????
 
Ditch Doc said:
I am looking for a new IPSC recipe using a 124gr bullet with tight group. Up until recently I've been using 147gr but would like something a little less "snappy". Anyone willing to share????
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Strange, most people describe 124s snappy compared to 147s...

Anyway Clays is a popular light feeling powder for 9mm - regardless of the weight.
 
OK, so it sounds like I may need to play with the powder instead of the bullet. If I can accomplish this with powder changes that would be great as I still have a few thousand 147gr left. Here's the background information.....

I usually shoot 3.4gr of either VV N320 (becoming too hard to get) or 4.0 gr of tightgroup with a 147 encapsulated bullet. Last week I took a colleague shooting for the first in her life but did not have enough ammo. As I was coming off night shift I decided I would just buy a few boxes. I ended up with some Federal 124gr as they had a sale on it.....long story short, I really, really liked it!!! It felt very smooth!! The only difference was that I could really see the muzzle flash in the form of a cloud for lack of a better explanation coming out of my Sig pro.
 
Ditch Doc said:
I usually shoot 3.4gr of either VV N320 (becoming too hard to get) or 4.0 gr of tightgroup with a 147 encapsulated bullet.
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I shoot 4.0~4.1 gr of titegroup with a 124 gr plated bullet (Frontier). This has consistently made 130 PF in IPSC. Occasionally the bullets will weigh in at 122.5 gr which has made my PF drop to 127~128.
This is thru my H&K USP.
 
Ditch Doc said:
OK, so it sounds like I may need to play with the powder instead of the bullet. If I can accomplish this with powder changes that would be great as I still have a few thousand 147gr left. Here's the background information.....

I usually shoot 3.4gr of either VV N320 (becoming too hard to get) or 4.0 gr of tightgroup with a 147 encapsulated bullet. Last week I took a colleague shooting for the first in her life but did not have enough ammo. As I was coming off night shift I decided I would just buy a few boxes. I ended up with some Federal 124gr as they had a sale on it.....long story short, I really, really liked it!!! It felt very smooth!! The only difference was that I could really see the muzzle flash in the form of a cloud for lack of a better explanation coming out of my Sig pro.
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If you still have the bullets, try the Unique starting at 3.5 grains and work up to 3.9 - 4.0
 
With Titegroup and 147 Montana Gold FMJ or TMJs my load was 3.0 grains - out of a Glock 17, I've switched to N320 because it is far cleaner with the slower loads - same load with the N320 is 3.3 grains.
 
beltfed said:
With Titegroup and 147 Montana Gold FMJ or TMJs my load was 3.0 grains - out of a Glock 17, I've switched to N320 because it is far cleaner with the slower loads - same load with the N320 is 3.3 grains.
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Where do you get your N320 from?? I used to load VihtaVuori and quite liked as it seems cleaner it but had trouble finding it in Calgary. That being said, the suggestion of trying a slower powder was made. Correct me if I am wrong but I thought Tightgroup was a slower powder than N320
 
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Ditch Doc said:
Where do you get your N320 from?? I used to load VihtaVuori and quite liked as it seems cleaner it but had trouble finding it in Calgary. That being said, the suggestion of trying a slower powder was made. Correct me if I am wrong but I thought Tightgroup was a slower powder than N320
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Higginson Powders has it in stock...
 
4.7 gr of Unique under 125 gr Montana Gold PF 135 SD under 10 over my Chrony out of a CZ 85

4.4 gr of Unique under 125 gr Montana Gold PF 129 SD 17 over my Chrony out of a 5" Tanfoglio

I prefer shooting lead cast bullets and go with 4.1 gr of 231PF 134 SD 7 over my Chrony out of my 5" Tanfoglio

Recoil is mild in all cases.

Take Care

Bob
 
N320 and TG are about the same for burn

TG is a little snappier. N310 2.9gn 147 at 29mm was the softest I had ever tried but not as accurate as N320/TG combo.

I used to run 3.4 gn TG with a 147 at 28.5mm in an Sp01 and did ok.

You want something softer maybe a 22 will do it.
 
I use 4.0 grains of titegroup, small pistol magnum primers, with 124 gr. Power factor is 140. Found the load to be real accurate. It does have some snap but I like the way it feels.
 
jed said:
I am using 4.1 of bullseye with the 124's
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X2 Does not seem too snappy.

I also use 3.8 gr. of Bullseye in .40 with a Frontier 180 gr. in the Glock 22 and it is not snappy. Apparently I could go lower to like 3.5 gr. but I have not tried it yet.
 
Ditch Doc said:
Where do you get your N320 from?? I used to load VihtaVuori and quite liked as it seems cleaner it but had trouble finding it in Calgary.
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On the powder puff loads it is way cleaner.
I bought a bunch last year when Walter did a group buy. So far I've gone through about 8 pounds of the stuff....and have a good chunk left :D
Not sure, but I thought someone on here was planning on being the Canadian distributor - Dobson maybe?
 
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