Why doesnt Remington make detach mags

[archie_james_c]

After owning a Model 742, SMLE, and hunting with people using detachable magazine rifles, I would never own another one again, maybe something with a V-Bull or BadgOrd as I have'nt seen them in action before. But otherwise...I've had my magazine bind FAR too many times and watched them bind FAR too many times going in for me to trust them. It really takes about 5-7 seconds to load my 5 rounds into my .30-06 M700...and they go in perfectly every time. Doesn't matter if you've never used the gun before...you pick it up and load it and they are in there...no binding, no mis-feeds, no problems.

 

[mackillan]

http://www.sako.fi/pdf/specs/85Varmint.pdf
This would be nice in .204 ruger

 

[Silverback]

When I hunt coyotes I do not hunt from a truck at all so I would not make such a blanket statement. I don't like unloading my rifle when I finish a stand in 2 feet of snow and loose the odd shell as they fall out of my rifle's hinge plate system (reflexes slow down in -30 weather ). My Varmint shells are around $1 each and popping out a mag would be easier to reload, unload and would just plain save me loosing shells.

Cheers!!

I didn't say that all hunters that like magazines are truck hunters, just that magazine are prefered by truck hunters. When I lived in southern Saskatchewan I watched a few brutal truck hunters, full throttle accross the field, hammer on the brakes, slam the mag in your semi-auto rifle and unload it at the deer as fast as you can, repeat if necessary. I wouldn't want to own any of their trucks after a hunt.

 

[janesy]

It would have been nice to have a DM on my 700 this year as I covered alot of ground with my ATV. Would have been nice to load and unload one round as apossed to 5 everytime I got on and off the thing. In warm weather I probably wouldb't care too much, but in cold weather the gloves and a hingplate become combersome.

 

[mackillan]

That sounds like me for 20 years only in central Saskatchewan. although semis never did it for me. I once saw 3 sodbusters with semi brownings blasting away at one deer. I thought I was at Normandy. It was louder than being in the front row of a Kiss concert.

I didn't say that all hunters that like magazines are truck hunters, just that magazine are prefered by truck hunters. When I lived in southern Saskatchewan I watched a few brutal truck hunters, full throttle accross the field, hammer on the brakes, slam the mag in your semi-auto rifle and unload it at the deer as fast as you can, repeat if necessary. I wouldn't want to own any of their trucks after a hunt.

 

[Claybuster]

Detachable magazines have their place. If you live in an area without shooting restrictions you can keep a rifle out of the safe and a loaded magazine nearby. If a predator comes too near to the barn it's much easier to load a rifle with a detachable magazine than a hinged floor place.

 

[Accurate]

I think the beginning of this thread was about Remington not making a detachable mag rifle. Well guess what, they do. You can take a trigger guard and mag from either a short or long action Remington 700 SPS DM which has a 4 shot detatch mag (Trigger guard is $70 and clip is $35 ) and attach to any other 700 rifle just as you would normally put your trigger guard back on. I've done it to a new hinged floor plate BDL in 30-06 and a Varmnit in .308.

 

[todbartell]

doesnt the feed rails in a 700 with hinged floorplate or blind mag screw up feeding when you stick a detach mag in there which has the feed rails built into the mag?

Ive never tried it...but I heard if you take a 700 DM model, and put a hinged floorplate setup in it, it wont work

 

[Accurate]

doesnt the feed rails in a 700 with hinged floorplate or blind mag screw up feeding when you stick a detach mag in there which has the feed rails built into the mag?

Ive never tried it...but I heard if you take a 700 DM model, and put a hinged floorplate setup in it, it wont work

Don't know about doing it that way but I guarantee it'll work my way. And for cheap.

 

[scott_r]

I think the beginning of this thread was about Remington not making a detachable mag rifle. Well guess what, they do. You can take a trigger guard and mag from either a short or long action Remington 700 SPS DM which has a 4 shot detatch mag (Trigger guard is $70 and clip is $35 ) and attach to any other 700 rifle just as you would normally put your trigger guard back on. I've done it to a new hinged floor plate BDL in 30-06 and a Varmnit in .308.

How about a .223 and smaller based cartridge?

 

[Accurate]

For 223 you can get the "short action" mag and guard. You can pretty much get one for any caliber that remington lists a 700 SPS DM for.(DM standing for detatch mag)

 

[mackillan]

Delete delete

 

[mackillan]

The John Holmes hand grip handle doesnt do it for me either. The ergonomics of a Tikka, Sako or a wby is just superior. 5-7 seconds is mucho time. If someone has the slippery clip syndrope they would be fumbling shells and spilling coffee. Maybe that is meant to lure the deer.

 

[archie_james_c]

Didnt have "slippery clip" (is that like slippery nips?) rather the magazine would bind if it wasnt lifted in place straight (except the SMLE MOST of the time you just give it a smack on the ass end and it pops in).

 

[senior]

Didnt have "slippery clip" (is that like slippery nips?) rather the magazine would bind if it wasnt lifted in place straight (except the SMLE MOST of the time you just give it a smack on the ass end and it pops in).

Sounds like the typical Rem 740-760-7400-7600 clip system.
Never did like them but I have never had a problem with any other clip gun I own. The M-88-100 Wins have one of the best fitting clips systems IMO.

 

[archie_james_c]

My uncle has a M100 in .308 and I watch him fumble with his magazine every time we hunt together ...preferences mere preferences.

 

[senior]

My uncle has a M100 in .308 and I watch him fumble with his magazine every time we hunt together ...preferences mere preferences.

If he fumbles with a M-88--100 clip system I'd like to see him load & unload a blind mag or get his parkensons looked at

 

[blargon]

doesnt the feed rails in a 700 with hinged floorplate or blind mag screw up feeding when you stick a detach mag in there which has the feed rails built into the mag?

It will work only if the stock is perfectly aligned with the magazine and action. However the Remington stocks are not all perfect or the same. If there is a gap between the mag and the feed rails, chances are it will bind while cycling.

I had a DM kit installed on my wife's .308 700 Youth, and the triggerguard for the DM was longer than the SPS one, and the stock had to be milled out. The feed rails were removed as well, because after milling the stock, the floorplate wouldn't work anymore either.

I wouldn't really say it is guaranteed to work.

 

[Win94]

I didn't say that all hunters that like magazines are truck hunters, just that magazine are prefered by truck hunters.

...............just what does a truck taste like??? When do they rut??? Can u get a general tag for a truck or are they on a draw system???

 

[Kilo Charlie]

Maybe Rem and Winchester will try really pushing detach mags on all their guns again like they did in the mid-90's, but I don't know if they'll sell any better now than they did then. That big wave only lasted about three years.