Just ordered my Dominion Arms Outlaw Double
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Back from the range, but dammit, I forgot the buckshot and slugs. I remembered the camera though, so I'll start a thread with some vids later tonight. I don't feel comfortable giving a full range report without the slugs and buckshot, but I gotta say, I shot the tiniest group I ever shot with my 300WM, and I was still more excited by the Outlaw! That's gotta be the most fun little gun I've ever had the pleasure of firing. I busted a couple dozen clays, just hand tossed by my dad, then I tossed a few myself and busted them. Wierd thing though, I was busting clays as well as I can with my 870 supermag, but hitting stationary targets was a little trying. I don't know if I was just over thinking it or what, but it'd sometimes take a couple shots before I could hit a 2l bottle, even at only 10 yards. Oh well, something to work on.
Long story short, thank you Can am, Gun functioned flawlessly, was most fun I've had shooting so far. Just gotta spend some more time shooting it.
Long story short, thank you Can am, Gun functioned flawlessly, was most fun I've had shooting so far. Just gotta spend some more time shooting it.
#### me, i may just have to get a smith to try putting this back together
i thought knowing how it goes together would make it easy, but no, they go and make the trigger components release with the holding pin, so you have to install the trigger housing first then try and feed the trigger and plate in together, but they just keep slipping apart before i can align them and the spring and the pin all at once.
just a heads up, ignore my previous post because getting this trigger back togethwer is a ****!
hey canam if you're reading this, do you have anymore left because i really like the fit and finish of this gun, and i promise not to take the new one apart, seriously.
i thought knowing how it goes together would make it easy, but no, they go and make the trigger components release with the holding pin, so you have to install the trigger housing first then try and feed the trigger and plate in together, but they just keep slipping apart before i can align them and the spring and the pin all at once.
just a heads up, ignore my previous post because getting this trigger back togethwer is a ****!
hey canam if you're reading this, do you have anymore left because i really like the fit and finish of this gun, and i promise not to take the new one apart, seriously.
oddly enough i just thought of that out about 15 minutes ago, that makes life so much easier.
i just fed a couple old drill bits until i had the right diameter, then cut a pin an 1/8" short of the overall thickness of the guard and bingo bango boingo, i even managed to reduce my trigger creep to nill in the process
the safety still holds good, and the trigger pull itself is still very heavy, but i will live with it
my poor pin heads are all battered from repeated hammer strikes, but i can always touch them up with a sharpie
to be honest i'm not sure, i'm new to the break open design
i've yet to shoot it, but from looking at the barrel there's an extractor clip that grabs the bottom of the the shell casing and moves backward as you swivel the barrel open, i'm not sure if it would have the force to eject the shell right out altogether, but i plan on shooting it this weekend so we'll see.
i still can't believe it took me so long to think of a short pin
i've yet to shoot it, but from looking at the barrel there's an extractor clip that grabs the bottom of the the shell casing and moves backward as you swivel the barrel open, i'm not sure if it would have the force to eject the shell right out altogether, but i plan on shooting it this weekend so we'll see.
i still can't believe it took me so long to think of a short pin
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Extractors, not ejectors.
to be honest i'm not sure, i'm new to the break open design
i've yet to shoot it, but from looking at the barrel there's an extractor clip that grabs the bottom of the the shell casing and moves backward as you swivel the barrel open, i'm not sure if it would have the force to eject the shell right out altogether, but i plan on shooting it this weekend so we'll see.
i still can't believe it took me so long to think of a short pin
That's what a old gun is like. Modern gun will put every thing into a trigger assembly. Much easier.
You just don't get it do you. SXS's are a lot different than semis and pumps. They are a more, "fitted" gun. You should save your money and invest in a Westley Richards "drop lock". Maybe Can Am can get Norinco to make some.
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You just don't get it do you. SXS's are a lot different than semis and pumps. They are a more, "fitted" gun. You should save your money and invest in a Westley Richards "drop lock". Maybe Can Am can get Norinco to make some.
would you buy one?
Then why is Norinco making cheap copies of them? SxS' are not "a" modern gun.....wtf.... SxS's are as modern today as they were a hundred years ago. And just as effective. It's just that you have to pay more than $300 to buy a good one.
I don't know about double guns and double triggers but the single shot looks allot like the H&R's and Rossi singles......pretty basic and by the looks of the inside of Hutchster's they seem to be pretty well crafted for $150....
Win,
We get it they are cheap guns....
Question for you since you obviously know more about these guns then I do..
How long have hammer less double guns been around?
Seems to me like the exposed hammer design must be older or less modern perhaps?
Quick search online reveals that hammerless has been around for 100 years at least....
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He never said a sxs was a "modern" gun. You said that "modern" guns put everything in the trigger assembly. The Westley Richard drop-lock that Win/64 mentioned does that and the design dates back to late 1800's. Not very modern.Well, SxS's are not modern gun.
Yes, guns used to be "fitted". But with today's tech like CNC, I really don't think it's that hard anymore.
Of course, you can always blow money onto a H&H.
Having been into some of the better gun making operations, including H&H, CNC machining only takes you so far even with the best equipment. Bringing it all together requires hand fitting by someone who knows what he is doing.
And from looking at the Norincos both in person and the pictures I doubt any of them have come close to a CNC machine unless the machine was set to leave visible file marks. They aren't hard to spot.
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