That is correct but at some point in the not so distant future...it will be replaced by the M110. As soon as the operational tempo and demand for equipment drops, as much as I personally like the M14, it will sunset again from military use.
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That is correct but at some point in the not so distant future...it will be replaced by the M110. As soon as the operational tempo and demand for equipment drops, as much as I personally like the M14, it will sunset again from military use.
Firepower is a relative term. In a platoon, that is provided by the 5.56mm and 7.62mm machine guns. In my experience, the further the target was away, the more likely you would use a machine gun, or LAV main gun or Arty/CAS. Why fire 7.62mm when a 25mm will do eh? It is all part of the big picture when it comes to combat. Like I said, it is not just one person fighting another mano a mano...
I think you will find as operational demands in Iraq start to fall away, so to will the demand for M14s. The contract for the M110 is already in production at 75 a month so I don't think the current gov is going to cancel it anytime soon.
The only thing the fall off in Iraq will do is free up a few additional M14s to meet the ever increasing demand for M14s in AFG.
Obama has already stated that his administration will cut back and even cancel new and existing military spending.
With the M14 meeting and exceeding the military's current and future needs the M110 is pretty much a lame duck.
I have to disagree with you on that one. The currently policy is the M14 is filling holes until the M110 comes online. The lifecycle maintenance is already signed last month with KAC for the M110. The type of stuff I think you will see cut by the current administration is the higher profile and emotional based military projects such as missile defence or new fighters option years. I don't think they are going to cut the M110 production simply because it is such a relatively small project in the grand scheme of things.
Lets chat 3 years from now on this. Unfortunately I think you will not be seeing the M14 much. Like I said before....I am a fan of the M14, and own a number of them....however, it had its day... in the last year there has not been any M14 sustainment contracts at the national level. Please don't mix that up with unit initiatives which will be mute once they have the M110.
I think you are underestimating how much the current administration wants to weaken the US military.
PrezBO is smart enough to target the small programs like M110 production, and work his way up the ladder.
Saving over $10K per rifle is an easy sell to the American public.
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Like I said, lets talk in a couple of years. I don't think he is going to touch operational stuff right now but rather future capablity, US Gov funded R&D etc. Don't forget, $10K per rifle is not the bone rifle but the kit, plus training and other elements. If you wanted to put together an AR10 complete as issued with optics....they will be 10K. Even an M14 will get close once you look at what makes a modern M14 variant. The price is not the issue.
H20_Man
I think this Morpheus32
is in the wrong thread perhaps the wrong planet. If I was wanting a close quarters semi-auto rifle, hands down it would have to be the AK-47. It put's holes through the tree, sand bag, wall, ect. As for long range semi auto all I can say is there was a man once that wrote the book on the art of sniping. I belive his name was "Gunnery Sergeant Carlos Norman Hathcock II". The inventor of putting a .50 cal BMG round in a rifle & 30 years later you get the "Barrett M82A1/M107 .50 BMG Semi-Auto Rifle".
P.S. Morpheus32 just incase you wern't up to speed on current world events. THE US GOVERNMENT IS BROKE! And Il Bomb Ya is to busing putting people in power that don't pay taxes that will alocate the fund's for your 10K rifle. Sorry but who is going to finace your great grand kids debt for these rifle's?
I think this Morpheus32
is in the wrong thread perhaps the wrong planet. If I was wanting a close quarters semi-auto rifle, hands down it would have to be the AK-47. It put's holes through the tree, sand bag, wall, ect. As for long range semi auto all I can say is there was a man once that wrote the book on the art of sniping. I belive his name was "Gunnery Sergeant Carlos Norman Hathcock II". The inventor of putting a .50 cal BMG round in a rifle & 30 years later you get the "Barrett M82A1/M107 .50 BMG Semi-Auto Rifle".P.S. Morpheus32 just incase you wern't up to speed on current world events. THE US GOVERNMENT IS BROKE! And Il Bomb Ya is to busing putting people in power that don't pay taxes that will alocate the fund's for your 10K rifle. Sorry but who is going to finace your great grand kids debt for these rifle's?
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Yeah, what does Morpheus32 know about combat? Or Big Red or KevinB? WE'RE THE INTERNET, BUDDY. WE HAVE READ ENOUGH TO KNOW WHAT IS BEST. Jeez.
... and I just posted this article cuz I thought it was very cool the M-14 was being used effectively in a designated marksman role and had 20 kills for 20 rounds fired in an engagement against a numerically superior enemy. 
I certainly wasn't expecting "which is better: 7.62 vs 5.56" or US politics entering this.
I certainly wasn't expecting "which is better: 7.62 vs 5.56" or US politics entering this.H20_Man
I think this Morpheus32
P.S. Morpheus32 just incase you wern't up to speed on current world events. THE US GOVERNMENT IS BROKE! And Il Bomb Ya is to busing putting people in power that don't pay taxes that will alocate the fund's for your 10K rifle. Sorry but who is going to finace your great grand kids debt for these rifle's?
I guess you have it figured out. AKs and 50 cals.
Sometimes I wonder why I even post. Actually I have a pretty good idea on what is happening in the world....
... and I just posted this article cuz I thought it was very cool the M-14 was being used effectively in a designated marksman role and had 20 kills for 20 rounds fired in an engagement against a numerically superior enemy.
Homer,
It is a great article but this is the normal course of events here on CGN. No worries.
H20_Man
I think this Morpheus32
P.S. Morpheus32 just incase you wern't up to speed on current world events. THE US GOVERNMENT IS BROKE! And Il Bomb Ya is to busing putting people in power that don't pay taxes that will alocate the fund's for your 10K rifle. Sorry but who is going to finace your great grand kids debt for these rifle's?
H20_Man
I think this Morpheus32
P.S. Morpheus32 just incase you wern't up to speed on current world events. THE US GOVERNMENT IS BROKE! And Il Bomb Ya is to busing putting people in power that don't pay taxes that will alocate the fund's for your 10K rifle. Sorry but who is going to finace your great grand kids debt for these rifle's?
I think Morpheus IS in the wrong thread.
No wait. I think I'M in the wrong thread.
I hope this wasn't directed at me:.
....I was just throwing in my opinion based on my my personal experiance and one who uses these "tools".It's hard to have an opinion sometimes so I'm taking my C8 and going home..lol
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H20_Man
I think this Morpheus32
P.S. Morpheus32 just incase you wern't up to speed on current world events. THE US GOVERNMENT IS BROKE! And Il Bomb Ya is to busing putting people in power that don't pay taxes that will alocate the fund's for your 10K rifle. Sorry but who is going to finace your great grand kids debt for these rifle's?
all Im goin say is I think the AK47 is an overhyped piece of ####... Perhaps if some people think the .223 wont do the job, they should improve thier aim instead
