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MadAxe said:
Through a bit of my own hamfistedness I inadvertently tweaked my rifle just enough to induce some puzzling malfunctions. Without Hungry's expertise it would likely have taken a trip to the gunsmith to figure out. Turns out all it needed was one good whack with the BFH in just the right spot and things were back to normal.
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MadAxe, I am very curious. Where was this "just the right spot"? This could be a valuable lesson to more people. I am very intrigued. I remembered you mentioned your M14 started malfunctioning after you installed the shims. Apparently this was not the problem. So what was the problem? Perhaps reassembly not tight enough?
 
After shimming the gas cylinder (needed 3 shims) and re-assembling the rifle I found that it would chamber, fire, extract the spent case and re-#### the hammer - but failed to strip the next round off the top of the magazine. Manually cycling the bolt worked, so I knew it wasn't a mech. problem with the bolt or the receiver. We checked every possible explanation (mag seating, bad ammo, sticky grease, took the shims out) but nothing worked until Hungry took a look at it and noticed that the front band appeared ever-so-slightly bent back and away from the little pin on the bottom of the gas cylinder assembly.

I think one or more of the shims collapsed during reassembly, and in tightening everything down the band somehow got bent, and it was out of alignment just enough to prevent the gas cylinder from functioning correctly. One good whack with a mallet on the end of the gas cylinder snugged everything down tight again, and when I test fired it everything functioned perfectly.

All I had to do was unscrew the gas cylinder plug and hit the gas cylinder lock once.
 
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I had a really good time thanks to the great bunch of guys I had the opportunity of meeting at the clinic. Of course, the knowledge gained was invaluable.

I still don't know what I'm going to do with the SEI muzzle brake. Seeing as it won't be very easy to get it on the end of the stock barrel, I think I might just go the krieger barrel route, but the thought scares me cause if I do that then, of course, I can't do without a USGI bolt. Good luck trying to find one. Then the USGI fibreglass stock just won't do, so I'll have to get a Macmillan or Boyds stock. Maybe then I should change the gas cylinder, gas clylinder lock, and gas cylinder plug. Oh ya, I'd have to do away with those cheap sights. Where would it all end. I'll have to get a second mortgage, LOL. All because they went and welded the flash suppressor to the barrel.
 
Quigly said:
I still don't know what I'm going to do with the SEI muzzle brake. Seeing as it won't be very easy to get it on the end of the stock barrel, I think I might just go the krieger barrel route, but the thought scares me cause if I do that then, of course, I can't do without a USGI bolt. Good luck trying to find one. Then the USGI fibreglass stock just won't do, so I'll have to get a Macmillan or Boyds stock. Maybe then I should change the gas cylinder, gas clylinder lock, and gas cylinder plug. Oh ya, I'd have to do away with those cheap sights. Where would it all end. I'll have to get a second mortgage, LOL. All because they went and welded the flash suppressor to the barrel.
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There were plenty of warnings on this forum: "rinco M14 is a money pit". You are a perfect example of the exact mechanics behind that statement. If you want to sell that USGI fiberglass stock, let me know. I am wobbling on the edge of this pit as well.....:D
 
simar said:
or you could just leave your pinging rifle as is, and use the muzzle brake on something else later :D
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Best advice so far! Plow all that saved cash into a second M305 and a couple of crates of surplus ammo. :D

I think some of the shooters were really torn, having to make the choice between staying in the clinic or walking over to the range and taking a few sighters with their newly pinging rifle......and risk missing a tip, trick or technique.

I'll get Hungry to update his must have list to include more stuff for shooters that want to test fire too. More ammo (always a good idea), rests, bipods and spotting scopes too.
 
One lesson I learned at this clinic: ditch the toxic chu-wood stock, get better op rod spring guide, and if you plan to shoot iron sights (which I do) get M1A or Garand rear sights. And of course, I will continue the tweaking, slowly but surely, get better shims and position them properly. The saved $ I plan to put into some military surplus rifles (M1 Grand, Lee Enfield, Mausers, etc).
 
I'm having the same "money pit" issues. Just went out and picked up a Nork M305. Now I have to decide what to do with it. Do I transfer my GI parts over to the good reciever or do I re mortgage my house and go the Krieger barrel Mcmillan stock route. Decisions decisions. I have to do this right, I don't want my d..k to fall off.
 
60 rounds at the range this morning, not a single malfunction. The rinco rear sight is crappy but once I zeroed it at 50 yards, I tightened the screws and so far it holds the zero. Average 3" at 50 yards. I bet my M14 shoots better than I shoot. Not sure if 3" at 50 yards is good or bad but I have bad eyes and I wasn't sure of where the bullseye was. I cannot prove the 3" as I didn't have my camera and I ditched the targets afterwards. Next time I will remember to tug my camera along.
 
drop the hammer said:
I'm having the same "money pit" issues. Just went out and picked up a Nork M305. Now I have to decide what to do with it. Do I transfer my GI parts over to the good reciever or do I re mortgage my house and go the Krieger barrel Mcmillan stock route. Decisions decisions. I have to do this right, I don't want my d..k to fall off.
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I'm new to M-14's. Is this #### thing falling off because someone is pulling the wrong operating rod continuously.....or does it have something to do with the short stroke piston operating system.......
 
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