CanadaAmmo is the best

B.....b..b.but I want my $99 pistol and I wanted it yesterday. *sob* it's not my fault canam is so busy *wah* I will keep whining till my pistol gets here. *sniff* I won't cancel my order because I know I'm getting a good deal.

You guys are sad.

You know, I am VERY unhappy about my t97 not being here, but guess what, it's not canam's fault. I wrote letters to mps. So did harbl and many others. Have you 1bigrn? Have you done anything to help the cause? Or just ##### to canam with meatsock?
 
1bigrn said:
It is often suggested that healthcare can be two of three things. It can be good, cheap or fast. But not all three.
This is also often compared to retail.

I suggest that Can-am is only 1 0f the 3. That is cheap.
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Okee there. Whatever you say.:rolleyes:

I've had not had anything bad from CanAm.
 
I've read this thread thus far in silence and with interest, as like most of us...I too have a T97 on order. Yup; I wish I could have it now as well but "c'est la vie" and the folks that are holding them are none-too-interested in communicating with CanAm. That is poor business practice on the part of the Government.

That being said, I believe that those who wish to complain or articulate why they feel the service is/has been poor should be able to do so. I suppose everyone is entitled to their opinion. I would certainly hope so.

It would seem that those who sing the praises of CanAm and this situation have a cheering section. Those who are brave enough to state their case and express their feelings as to why they are unhappy are subsequently "run out of town" via pitchfork and posse. When will we be setting up the "dipping tanks" to see if they drown?

It would seem that only praise is allowed here and not criticism. Should we have a thread designated "praise only"? Sadly, a couple of nights ago, Hunterhenderson started a "refunds from CanAm" thread and minutes later, it had disappeared. Sigh...

My position is that what is happening is beyond the control of us (the consumers) and CanAm (the poor guy that is in the middle, the place where you get hit by the most stones). I harbor no ill will and hope my T97 arrives soon.

But, I also harbor no ill will or frustration at those who feel they've been treated less than adequately and want to articulate their case on here. I read all the posts with interest and an open mind.

Will they change my opinion? Unlikely...but their opinions are as entitled as mine and I'm glad to read them all.

In the meantime, we go and fire our other firearms and wait for "Christmas in the spring".
 
maetsack said:
What a BS Stroke thread,...

Because you like CanAm they can't possibly be disliked? Whatever.
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Not liking CanAm is one thing, but I feel the reason behind it is not justified. T97 is out of his hands yet most like to complain. 1bigrn has the option to buy from Marstar or Lever for a higher price, but stuck with Canada Ammo because of he is cheaper. Why would you complain if you had all the opportunity to cancel the order and order with someone that you feel will give you better service?
 
justin1628 said:
Not liking CanAm is one thing, but I feel the reason behind it is not justified. T97 is out of his hands yet most like to complain. 1bigrn has the option to buy from Marstar or Lever for a higher price, but stuck with Canada Ammo because of he is cheaper. Why would you complain if you had all the opportunity to cancel the order and order with someone that you feel will give you better service?
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What a load of bulls**t. When did CanAm ever offer the option of a full refund for people not happy with this situation? And when did they get agreement with all the pre-purchasers to change the deal to take the balance despite not being ready to ship?

Why even bother - CanAm is just going to censor my response anyway.
 
My turn to chime in with a couple centabos...

These threads keep getting locked and deleted due to off topic responses, and angry diatribes... That said... the topic of this thread is "CanadaAmmo is the Best", so maybe keep the posts to that and a moderator won't lock it and spank it's contributors (myself included). If a person(s) have an issue with service or product from this company, they should start a post to complain about it...

I don't have a problem with persons of differing opinions, however it becomes tiresome when people argue and complain about the same point over and over again...considering there's an easy solution that they'll refuse to adopt. Nonetheless, if you've had a positive experience with Canada Ammo, as I did, speak about it hear... If you feel you've been somehow "tormented" by Canada Ammo - start a new post about it...

Back to the topic... I've had great communications with both Chris and Mark at Canada Ammo - they've always answered in a timely fashion. Considering how many emails and calls they must get everyday, I have no idea how they do it...let's say that it takes on average 5 minutes to read and respond to an email (some longer, some less), but an average... get approximately 100 email per day... this alone is over 8 hours of work... no lunch, no "bio-breaks", just email... Again, I have no idea how they do it, but kudos to them for being able to do it on a daily, evening, and weekend basis...
 
stormtrooper1015 said:
My turn to chime in with a couple centabos...

These threads keep getting locked and deleted due to off topic responses, and angry diatribes... That said... the topic of this thread is "CanadaAmmo is the Best", so maybe keep the posts to that and a moderator won't lock it and spank it's contributors (myself included). If a person(s) have an issue with service or product from this company, they should start a post to complain about it...

I don't have a problem with persons of differing opinions, however it becomes tiresome when people argue and complain about the same point over and over again...considering there's an easy solution that they'll refuse to adopt. Nonetheless, if you've had a positive experience with Canada Ammo, as I did, speak about it hear... If you feel you've been somehow "tormented" by Canada Ammo - start a new post about it...

Back to the topic... I've had great communications with both Chris and Mark at Canada Ammo - they've always answered in a timely fashion. Considering how many emails and calls they must get everyday, I have no idea how they do it...let's say that it takes on average 5 minutes to read and respond to an email (some longer, some less), but an average... get approximately 100 email per day... this alone is over 8 hours of work... no lunch, no "bio-breaks", just email... Again, I have no idea how they do it, but kudos to them for being able to do it on a daily, evening, and weekend basis...
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Again, a reference to the mythical no-hassle refund, the easy and simple solution that oddly enough doesn't exist nor has ever been actually offered by CanAm. This would make it the umpteenth time it has been offered by someone other than CanAm???

Perhaps people repeatedly try to make their point because they are either told to STFU or that they are simply wrong - funny, they don't seem to appreciate those directives. When will they ever learn?

You do make an interesting point - it is ok to have a thread dedicated to the praise of a vendor, but any negative feedback is forbidden. You would think that they would appreciate the opportunity to receive feedback and improve from it (some companies pay actual money for this kind of feedback), but it appears this is not the case. They would rather censor anything negative which again invites reposts. Greentips was clear that CanAm moderates this section so they are completely responsible for this censorship. Nice.

I am truly amazed that CanAm has allowed people to stew and fester over something that could be addressed with regular communication. A legitimate update once a week probably would have made most concerns disappear, but it is easier to review the posts and censor s**t they don't like.

Let's see how long it takes to get this feedback deleted.
 
maetsack said:
Again, a reference to the mythical no-hassle refund, the easy and simple solution that oddly enough doesn't exist nor has ever been actually offered by CanAm. This would make it the umpteenth time it has been offered by someone other than CanAm???.
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Is a refund something would you be happy with? Have you actually called and asked CanAm for your money back?
 
i know my post is redundant, but what's all this nonsense about waiting for a retailer to OFFER a refund? who does that? really? if you are unhappy with wait times on an order, cancel it and TELL them to refund you. it's simple!
 
Well, better get a word in before the lock down. I emailed and he got back to me and said he would refund my credit card minus the $100 deposit, which I knew was non refundable, but he still said he'd put it towards something else he has in stock. Best way to look at that is a free $99 pistol!! I don't think you lose your $100 deposit, it just isn't refundable. I'll gladly order from them again. It was nice to know the option is there, but I'll wait this out to the end.
 
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LOL this is getting awesome.

I'm just gonna wait to find out what's happening with the t97 before screaming for a refund.

It's only 900$.
 
I have posted this before! But it was deleted.

This is a great oppurtunity for Can-am to win me and several others over to their side.

Perhaps they could refund us all our money except our down payment.
When the rifle come in, then and only then charge our credit cards.Within a few days complete the tranfer and mail off the rifle. Every other company does it this way.
What a novel idea. I would support them and sing their praise.
 
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Most dealers will NOT charge you until the item is availbe to ship yet......i dunno how you guys can take this ####.

+1 for Questar and the other dealers.
 
The problem is that the Chinese factory probably required payment for the goods when they arrived in port. Thus, billing began when it arrived in port. Its pretty hard to cover a hundred thousand dollars or more.

Speaking as a law student:

The 100$ is a contractual consideration.

You wanted to contract to purchase the item when it arrived.

You agreed to a non-refundable deposit of 100$. In return they gave a guarantee that you would recieve one when they arrive.

If you want to dispute the entire contract, and don't want to go through your credit card you can call them and ask them to refund you (I suspect they'd agree, minus the deposit).

If you do not get what you want, you can walk into a local courtroom and sue them in contract for the amount you desire (typically a small claims court). That would likely cost 20$ or so in most provinces.

However, my legal opinion, such as it is worth as a non-lawyer, is that you are not entitled to the deposit back.

There was an exchange of consideration: They gave you a spot in line in exchange for 100$. That's a contractual option, that you paid for. Caveat Emptor.

However, I do think that from a public relations standpoint CanAm could have handled this debacle better.

Its not their fault, they've done nothing wrong, its all the CBSA and RCMP's fault. By simply posting every day that they have not heard anything, they'd squelch all this silliness.
 
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