King Optics

cycbb486 said:
will say is that if I have to drop a g-note on a scope it will be on a Leupold. Nothing less.
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Can't even comprehend someone dropping $1400 on a POS Chinese manufactured POS!:D

For that money you could buy 2 VX-3's
I just bought a VX-3 4.5-14 for $680 plus taxes.

Lots of smoke and mirrors with KOCk Optics.
As for starting a optics company, selling Chinese manufacted scopes doesn't make one an Optics company, it makes one a distributor.

I could sell Chinese produced chopsticks, wouldn't make me a lumber baron!;)
 
Just saw this thread sorry for not getting back to you, also I was away all last week, the scopes are designed and engineered in Nova Scotia (for those of you not familiar with NS, it is NOT in Newfoundland) the optics are european and everything is then assembled in NS and tested to ensure it meets all specifications.

As for those who own KOC scopes if you check the feedback section of the website some of the customers email addresses are there, maybe try dropping them an email and ask them about their purchase, they may or may not reply but it's worth a try.

Also, one of the Ontario dealers is setting up a booth, I'll make a phone call to get all the details and post them here.
 
ben hunchak said:
Euro optics, assembled in Canada, maybe worth a second look!!!
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I'd hold out on that for a while. The posts that I've been reading regarding this haven't exactly convinced me. When you ask someone for more than a "I have one it's good you should get one too" type of post and their response is simply they could care less. Well that's not exactly encouraging.

The website is pretty suspect. The Pride-Fowler reticle rip off looks marginal, and there is very little info about this scope. The specs that are provided aren't as good as the Conquest line which is considerably cheaper. Then of course we get into the "WTF" "fluted" scope tube. Considering a lot of people have their rings lapped for perfect contact, I can't be anything but skeptical of the fluting. :confused: This fact alone makes me think "smoke and mirrors".
 


If you have people listed as a reference for these POS scopes why wouldn't they reply to questions?
Something's fishy:D
 
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Pickles said:
If you have people listed as a reference for these POS scopes why wouldn't they reply to questions?
Something's fishy:D
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Honestly, is there any need to insult this guy? If you had one and the service or product was poor then I could see you calling them a POS. Yes the price is prohibitive for a new product line but if the service is good and the product good then who cares.

Take it from a Canadian who is producing product in Canada, it is nigh impossible to produce quality parts without some foreign content.

Not that I own any of their scopes, the price is just too high for a trial. :D
 
Pickles said:
If you have people listed as a reference for these POS scopes why wouldn't they reply to questions?
Something's fishy:D
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Pickles...what is exactly wrong with these scopes? Where is your evidence to to back your allegations of these "POS" scopes.
Why not post something constructive instead of making a fool of yourself.
 
scott_r said:
Pickles...what is exactly wrong with these scopes? Where is your evidence to to back your allegations of these "POS" scopes.
Why not post something constructive instead of making a fool of yourself.
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Explain how I'm making a fool of myself?

A shifty vague website, Chinese made optics for almost $1400?:rolleyes:

How many KOC scopes you see in the benchrest world? In the hunting field?
Ever see one on a hunting show? Didn't think so.:D
They've been around for at least a year now so how come no one has endorsed them?
If you believed the commercial you'd think it was better than the second coming of Christ. Yet no one has one. Hmmmmm? Food for thought.

Will I ever have any actual experience using one?
Ever hear the expression "A fool and his money are soon parted"?

I'm no fool. :D

It hurts me when I buy a new Leupold but guess what, with that high price comes peace of mind and a great warranty. Worth it in my books.

Feel free to buy one yourself.
Bet you won't either.;)
 
Hey, I'm with Pickles, until I see alot of proof about the excellence of these new scopes, I'm skeptical, there's just been too many fly by night outfits over the years, with miracle scopes, that don't pan out. I can't see laying out 13 or 14 big ones just to find out it was a scam.
 
all the euro optics in the world won't matter much when the scope keeps sliding back and forth in the rings because of the fluted tube:mad:

my posts weren't meant to insult the guy or the scopes, i would just like some explanations, but they don't seem to be forthcoming, or when they are, they are gobbledy gook, as in scopehunters explanation of the fluted scope spec's and them being 10mm thick:confused:

and the shoddy grammar on the website, the goofy descriptions, and the extreme price point scream of a scam in my eyes.

but alas, i don't own a king optics scope, nor have i seen one, so take what i say with a grain of salt.

btw, this isn't the first time someone's brought a new or different scope company to the forefront, cyberk did it with the falcon line, and i had never heard of them before so in my mind i wrote them off as junk, until cyberk demo'd some scopes with skullboy or jamie.

the subsequent reviews opened my eyes to them, and led me to adding falcon to my list of considered brands of optics, i think this the only way king optics can convince me personally.
 
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This is seriously unbelievable. Either do your best to prove to the CANADIAN firearms community that you are a viable and reasonable company with a good product, or float away. These scopes scream crap on their website, no one with half a mind flutes a scope tube, and decreases bearing surface, then rips off a reticle and calsl it all new and improved.
$1400. Seriously. I'll buy a Leupold or a Swarovski for that much. There are wayyyyyy tooooo many doohickeys about these scopes to give anyone confidence in this product.
And if that 'tard that posted the experience of taking a $2000 rifle with a Tasco into the wilds of Newfoundland shows up here like he did on Alberta Outdoorsman, please expect the same experience. We will laugh, and you'll be signing the cheque for it.
Prove that they aren't made in China, prove that they hold up (two people now have posted failures on new scopes, and yah they replaced them, but so does Wal-mart Bushnells), and prove that they have 800-1400 CAD worht of glass in them.
Every other viable company making these claims has.
 

So you are saying they are NOT made, handled, touched, or looked through in or near China or any Asian country, or contain parts from there?

Where exactly are the "European" optics made? Is China now in Europe?;)

What would make me spend $1400 on your scope rather than on a Nightforce or Swaro, or a Leupold Mark4?

From what I've read here, you haven't answered anyone's questions, other than saying "give us a try before you deny"...
 
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The tubes are classic Chinese Leapers/NCstar/Vector/Fitco ect. and so forth. The green multi-coated lenses also scream Chinese. If they were serious about their optics they would send them in to REPUTABLE magazines or shooters and have them tested. Without independent testing by well regarded people, all I see is a website making claims and overpriced scopes.
 
suprathepeg said:
Be careful. You will probably find parts that are made in China in at least one of the other optics you mentioned.
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Maybe so, but they have been proven and endorsed by some of the most respected shooters in the industry, and the distributors/manufacturers don't play duck & hide with people's questions...
 
Pickles, didnt mean to insult you, you have some valid points and you are correct with me not lining up to purchase one of these scopes but there some products assembled in China that are great ie. The Ipod, Imac, Iphone even my favorite gotch "fruit of the Loom":D

Cheers!!
 
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