Another Glock vs M&P thread!!
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No arguning the Glock is a great duty pistol. That said not many of us are going "on duty" anytine soon. There are other guns out there that do better for things other than "duty".
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Bob
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x2 with <brent373> comments ......still I'll vote for Glock (personal opinion)!
I've owned multiples of both in 9mm (I've never owned a 40 - just never got around to buying the new cartridge). I currently own an M&P 9mm, I shoot lead reloads through it and it is flawless. I'm now in excess of 6,000 rounds through this one (I had +/- 1,500 through the previous one before I traded it away - and went out and got another) I have yet to have an FTF / FTE / FT anything else. The gun is actually pretty dull, just load and shoot. The Glocks I've owned were similar, I've never seen a Glock in 9mm go boom. I don't buy the argument that Glocks eat their brass due to an under supported chamber. What I do find with Glocks is that my trigger finger doesn't have enough reach to hold the pistol properly and contact the trigger surface adequately. This means I have to use a less than optimum grip to hold the pistol which affects the speed and accuracy of my shooting. I don't need that from my hand gun.
Note you can make an M&P larger or smaller, with Glock you get what you get.
ETA: as the gentleman below says, my M&P also looks virtually new, both are equal in that regard.
Note you can make an M&P larger or smaller, with Glock you get what you get.
ETA: as the gentleman below says, my M&P also looks virtually new, both are equal in that regard.
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I vote Glock just because field stripping is easier than the M&P and after putting in a ghost trigger the Glock is so nice to shoot if you can put up with the angle of the frame.
I don't really think you can go too wrong with the M&P either though.
I don't really think you can go too wrong with the M&P either though.
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You can look at mine if you want. It's in awesome shape. They are both excellent. 
I am a righty and prefer the mag release on the right side. I use my trigger finger to release the mag. I have found it to be much faster and I can keep the gun on target much easier then shifting the gun around so my thumb can hit the mag release. Been doing this for over a year and have long concluded JMB probably put the mag release on the wrong side and everyone else just copied him.
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Bob
If you are reloading you should be behind cover or atleast concealment. So tell me how or why keeping your pistol(that is in need of a fresh magazine) on target is of any value if you can't engage that target? Reloading your pistol at arms length is difficult and not conducive to consistent movements/muscle memory. Perhaps keeping your pistol pointed at a target or rather down range is the reason behind it? If that's the case it sounds like square range mentality designed for the lowest common denominator.
TDC
I have shot both, they are great. G17 is essentially proven, though I don't think the M&P will bound to fail. Myself, I am a bit partial for the Springfield XD 9. Because I like the trigger on the XD and shoot very accurate with it. But, I bought a glock instead because I know if anything else, Glock has been proven to be reliable and tons of aftermarket parts for it.
I know a few guys that shoot lead through their Glocks.
The trick is running lower pressure loads.
As one guy puts it... I'm shooting paper.
(p.s. I sold my G17 and it's the biggest case of sellers remorse I've ever had)
Are you off your meds or in the bottle? Where did you read in my post I reload at arms length? Has it occured to you that what might be difficult for you might be easy for someone else?
Do you actually shoot your guns or do you just attend weekend warrior classes and have wet dreams about being a commando?
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Bob
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Good to know.
Any idea what the load is they are using? Bullet weight, powder, charge, OAL?
Do you know if these rounds will make power factor for IPSC/IDPA?
John
John the 9MM is a high pressure round to start with. Lead build up in the Glock barrels will occur under most circumstances but not to the point where you have to worry provided you clean you gun after each range session. The polygonial Tanfoglio barrel I run in .40cal has yet to demonstrate any leading using my cast bullets. Your load of 4.1 gr of 231 under the 124 gr bullets makes PF for IDPA/IPSC. It doesn't matter how you reach the velocity ie powder you use that is the cause for leading in Glocks, but the rifling.
You no doubt have read threads where Glock shooters talk about never needing to clean their guns. Take that concept and shoot lead in a Glock .40cal and you may well set yourself up for a Glock Kaboom. I'll leave it to Glock shooters shooting 9MM to talk to how much leading they experience shooting lead in a 9MM. I may have to borrow Jerry's Glock and fire off a box of 9MM to see how much you actually get.
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Bob
You no doubt have read threads where Glock shooters talk about never needing to clean their guns. Take that concept and shoot lead in a Glock .40cal and you may well set yourself up for a Glock Kaboom. I'll leave it to Glock shooters shooting 9MM to talk to how much leading they experience shooting lead in a 9MM. I may have to borrow Jerry's Glock and fire off a box of 9MM to see how much you actually get.
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Bob
Please explain how you reload with your pistol directed towards the target? Either its at arms length or you're executing your reload from retention(elbow to rib cage). In either case keeping your pistol pointed at the target is neither practical nor possible if you use cover to reload. Behind cover you can't see you target so you can't be sure your pistol is still pointed in the right direction. During a reload(from cover or not) your pistol is not in a condition to be of any use until AFTER you complete the reload, so why concern yourself with keeping sights(and muzzle) on target??
TDC
Going to feed my M&P tonite!
I got 1k of federal AE 9mm to feed mine tonite! I can't wait it is such a fun gun to shoot. I just wish that there were more sources for Mags around to keep the flow.... I have even thought of posting an accelerated use test on the tube of 1k non stop to prove that they are as good as a glock.....
I got 1k of federal AE 9mm to feed mine tonite! I can't wait it is such a fun gun to shoot. I just wish that there were more sources for Mags around to keep the flow.... I have even thought of posting an accelerated use test on the tube of 1k non stop to prove that they are as good as a glock.....
