Holster certification

[John in B.C.]

And another one...gosh I feel smarter already......

Maybe if I post enough I will become a better shot too like some of the keyboard kommandos who hang out around here.....

 

[CaptV]

And another one...gosh I feel smarter already......

Maybe if I post enough I will become a better shot too like some of the keyboard kommandos who hang out around here.....

What a great idea.

Seriously though - thanks Banskopivo for realigning - or at least trying to realign the thread. To no avail, I suspect.

But please, continue to fight amongst yourselves...it's like UFC without the visuals or verbal talent...

Next Match in the Octogon - IDPA versus IPSC...or is that ODPA?

 

[John in B.C.]

Upsy Diasy

What a great idea.

Seriously though - thanks Banskopivo for realigning - or at least trying to realign the thread. To no avail, I suspect.

But please, continue to fight amongst yourselves...it's like UFC without the visuals or verbal talent...

Next Match in the Octogon - IDPA versus IPSC...or is that ODPA?

Ahhh very wise words..



Okay back to the fight

.....IPSC is better .......how dare you IDPA is obviously superior in very way ....... bollocks, we have the black badge......so, so,so what YOUR MOTHER WEARS ARMY BOOTS...... well I have never been so insulted just for that I am taking my BB and I`m not going to any of your shoots.... yeah, well I`m not going to any of your shoots eitherhahaha, that way I won`t get to shoot as often but I can spend endless hours on the interweb learning everything about guns and shooting..... yeah, well so will I but I will spend even more time on the computer and even less at the range so I will be a bonofide internet expert with an outrageously high post count so everyone will know I KNOW EVERYTHING!!!! SO THERE!

Well there you have it folks...another thrilling bout between tweedledee and tweedledum

Next week we will be presenting another thrilling bout between (fill in blank) and (fill in blank) over another imagined insult. Stay safe and see you then

 

[667]

...or is that ODPA?

Please... It's ODP"L". Not ODP"A"

 

[acrashb]

Please... It's ODP"L". Not ODP"A"

Let's start "OPSC" and really get things going.

 

[Jarlath]

Let's start "OPSC" and really get things going.

Stop it... I'm trying to keep my food down.. Laughing is making it hard...

 

[CaptV]

Please... It's ODP"L". Not ODP"A"

Don't tell that to the Okotoks Decorating and Painting Association...they've got a lot of political clout in their campaign to de-register paint-guns.

 

[Tuco Pike]

The IDPA holster course is accepted for everything now including IPSC but not matches for scoring, just club level events like league nights or practice. Good for all others including competitions. This was just a recent change. So, if you just want to shoot for fun, the IDPA one is good for you. If you want to shoot *DPA matches you are good to go, PPC as well. Just can't shoot IPSC matches, for scoring at least. It really is up to the people running it, how experienced you are, and how you behave and carry yourself.

 

[Quigley]

Just to be clear...club level events are not IPSC...so the IDPA cert does not get you anywhere with "IPSC". If clubs wish to allow it for non sanctioned activities...it's none of our business.

Your last statement may mislead some people to think that with the IDPA cert...they could shoot at an IPSC match (santioned) but not register a score (shoot for fun) Also not allowed (just to clear up any possable confusion)

Cheers

The IDPA holster course is accepted for everything now including IPSC but not matches for scoring, just club level events like league nights or practice. Good for all others including competitions. This was just a recent change. So, if you just want to shoot for fun, the IDPA one is good for you. If you want to shoot *DPA matches you are good to go, PPC as well. Just can't shoot IPSC matches, for scoring at least.

 

[Wendell]

IDPA in Canada?

...IDPA is entrenched and organized in Canada with shooters in seven provinces and two territories and is growing. There are over 300 shooters shooting IDPA in Canada with most of this growth coming in the last two years. We expect to have over 500 registered shooters by year end...

Bob Bonenfant
IDPA Area Coordinator - Canada

Everybody knows that IPSC is entrenched and organized throughout Canada. It has a recognized brand, just ask your CFO, and a safety course that has been proven. On the other hand...

Even speaking as a member of IDPA, which I am, one would think that one would have to actually shoot an IDPA match to be properly considered one of the 300 (or 500) shooters shooting IDPA (so I'd guess I'm not yet one of those).

In the IDPA Tactical Journal, vol.#13 issue #2 , there is one match advertised in B.C. The IDPA Canada site shows member clubs in three Canadian provinces (BC, AB, and ON) and - if I'm reading these notices correctly - only two matches scheduled in Ontario.

There are no upcoming events currently scheduled.

I'm not sure that three scheduled matches in three provinces constitutes entrenched and organized in Canada. Maybe I'm missing something...

 

[Canuck44]

Everybody knows that IPSC is entrenched and organized throughout Canada. It has a recognized brand, just ask your CFO, and a safety course that has been proven. On the other hand...

Even speaking as a member of IDPA, which I am, one would think that one would have to actually shoot an IDPA match to be properly considered one of the 300 (or 500) shooters shooting IDPA (so I'd guess I'm not yet one of those).

If you pay your annual fee you are a member. You have never shot an IDPA match. Really. Then why did you spend your money to be a member? Not sure how you come to your conclusions. I assume they are based upon how IPSC membership works ie BB Course then a Qualifier to become a memeer.

In the IDPA Tactical Journal, vol.#13 issue #2 , there is one match advertised in B.C. The IDPA Canada site shows member clubs in three Canadian provinces (BC, AB, and ON) and - if I'm reading these notices correctly - only two matches scheduled in Ontario.

Your IPSC definitions are confusing you. IDPA is shot at club level. In Terrace we shoot 8 monthly matches a year. Some clubs shoot bi-monthly. We also run practice nights three times a month. The Sanctioned Matches you see in the Tactical Journal are a whole different matter and are either National, Provincial/State or Regional Matches similar in nature to IPSC Provincial/National Matches. In IPSC you shoot Qualifiers for ranking, which I suspect you are comparing wrongly, to our Santioned Matches.


I'm not sure that three scheduled matches in three provinces constitutes entrenched and organized in Canada. Maybe I'm missing something...


You are this year there will be only two Santioned Matches, one in BC and the other in Ontario. Read above to clear your confusion over the use of IPSC terms.

Four years ago we had less than 30 active members and one club in Ontario. We now have over 360 members across Canada located in 7 Provinces and 2 Territories and 15 clubs presently affiliated with an additional three expected to be applying within the next three months. We expect membership will exceed 500 by yearr-end. Modest growth I know but growth never-the-less.

Unlike IPSC, our principle organizational structure is based at the club level with little in the way of administration between the clubs and HQ.

I have re-read you post and wonder why you posted it. For those of us who shoot IDPA we understand the differences in the two sports. Shoot one or the other or both. You joined IDPA, I presume to learn to shoot the sport and enjoy it. It wouldn't hurt you to take time out and learn something of how IDPA operates, who owns it and how it is run and managed. You will see how the two business models differ.

Like it or not the sport is well entrenched in Canada (BC, Alberta and Ontario are the largest pistol shooting base in Canada), and soon will have a club in Newfoundland. We are looking to grow clubs in the Maritimes. With the Safety Officer course now being run in St. John's this week-end I suspect it may happen sooner than later.

You obviously have some misconceptions about IDPA. IF you are interested in clearing them up contact me directly and I will be pleased to answer any questions you might have.

Take Care

Bob

 

[Wendell]

I call it as I see it. IPSC was being maligned, and unfairly.

I have re-read you post and wonder why you posted it.

I joined IDPA - despite the fact that there are no IDPA matches here - hoping that it will grow and flourish here. (In N.S., IPSC is the only game in town.) And I also plan to shoot IDPA while in the U.S. Having corresponded already, back in Feb 29, 2009, with CGN member Steve David about a potential safety officer course somewhere on the East coast, sometime this summer, it's nice to hear about the course in SJ, NF, this weekend. I still hope to attend one of these. This is what I'd said to him then:

Originally Posted by Wendell
I'm in Nova Scotia, belong to IPSC and IDPA - though I haven't yet shot an IDPA match, and I want to see IDPA here.

I'll make every effort to attend your session.

As to why I posted, IPSC had been maligned. The IPSC Canada Black Badge is not just any old safety course, and the Black Badge gives us a comfort level and an expectation of safe gun handling even though they may be strangers. Reciprocity for/with other courses may be a good idea, but it shouldn't just be assumed.

Not every "holster course" has the same rules.

That's why I posted.

 

[Canuck44]

As to why I posted, IPSC had been maligned. The IPSC Canada Black Badge is not just any old safety course, and the Black Badge gives us a comfort level and an expectation of safe gun handling even though they may be strangers. Reciprocity for/with other courses may be a good idea, but it shouldn't just be assumed.

Not every "holster course" has the same rules.

That's why I posted.

Yes, but why would it be a good idea? IPSC had their rules and most of us understand that and no one I know of within the management of IDPA asking for reciprocity and I certainly have no intention of approaching Sean for such reciprocity. That has been stated on this thread earlier by me with the reasons outlined.

The games are different and the courses ought to, and do reflect the differences.

You did speak to more than the "holster course" issue in fact your post doesn't mention it so I think you are being a tad disengenuous when you say that is why you posted.

In any event we hope to see an IDPA club affiliate in NS at some point. Affiliation as you likely know does require a certified IDPA Safety Officer and that seems to be the biggest stumbling block at the present time. A SO course was just conducted in St. John's and I don't know if anyone travelled over there from the mainland to take in the course or not. I haven't spoken to the Instructor.

If you spoke to Steve David then you know what is involved to host a Safety Officer course and if you are interested in pursuing the matter then feel free to contact him.

Take Care & Good Shooting

Bob
ps The BB is a IPSC Rules Course with Practical Instruction on drawing from a holster. Nothing more nothing less. I found it represented good value for those interested in shooting IPSC, and it is mandatory if you want to shoot the sport in Canada and that is a good thing.