S&W vxr460mag

I will tell you with mine that if you were shooting 45 colt then switched to 454 then you probly got it real dirty and you should never switch from small to larger cases without cleaning.Extreme pressure will result as the lead builds on the cylinder where the lil ramp is and creates serious pressure issues as the bullet is allready in contact with the lead build up.
I have noticed this same thing with mine ,push the cartridge extracter out and there is prolly some biuld up under it clean it out and the rest of gun and should be fine.
 
ElmerFudd said:
Yes, you may be the only one. :p Sure with reloading we can download a cartridge but do you use 357 Magnum brass for all your powder puff light loads? I use 38 Special for that. Because it is much cheaper brass. I can find it free at the range too. And if I shoot a match I don't go crazy if I don't find it all.
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another issue is the risk of detonation when you run small powder charges in large cases

http://www.reloadammo.com/liteload.htm
 
ElmerFudd said:
Yes, you may be the only one. :p Sure with reloading we can download a cartridge but do you use 357 Magnum brass for all your powder puff light loads?
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I'm actually starting to consider doing so, or to shoot my .38s exclusively out of my model 15 to avoid crud build-up. You make some good points though.:yingyang:

I don't lend much credence to that whole detonation question though. I'd like to read some actual documented experiments leading to conclusive results instead of 20-year-old anecdotal evidence, for once.
 
This is a case of your own doing not the ammo, by creating to much pressure.No ammo company gonna bend over or do anything for your own mistakes.For heaven sakes clean your gun when going from small cartridges to larger.
 
timberjack said:
This is a case of your own doing not the ammo, by creating to much pressure.No ammo company gonna bend over or do anything for your own mistakes.For heaven sakes clean your gun when going from small cartridges to larger.
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All that has already been stated in this thread. Stated by people with much more tact and diplomacy than you.

Gee, berating him sure was constructive.

So, has Hornady gotten back to you yet, Panda?
 
JohnC said:
another issue is the risk of detonation when you run small powder charges in large cases

http://www.reloadammo.com/liteload.htm
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In a handgun cartridge??? That only applies to very slow burning powders lightly loaded in large capacity bottle neck cases, and to my knowledge this has never happened in a straight wall cartridge. The best theory I've heard is that the force of the primer blast drives the powder column against the base of the bullet, forming a plug at the shoulder of the cartridge, then as the gas volume increases without an increase in volume from the bullet moving down the bore, the strength of the chamber walls is exceeded. Choose an appropriate powder for the velocity level you wish to attain, choose a load from a published source, and you won't run into trouble in any cartridge. As to the example with 2400 in the article, 2400 has been used very successfully in cast bullet rifle loads, where the powder column is very short compared to the powder capacity of the cartridge, and 2400 is a fast powder compared to slow burning rifle powders.
 
To Timberjack, my 460 is cleaned after every shoot. I have never had a problem like this before and I have gone from large rounds down to small and small up to large. Maybe it was the gun......maybe it was the primer, who the hell knows:confused:

I had an e-mail from Hornady asking a few questions so I sent them a couple of pictures,I hope it helped them
 
timberjack said:
This is a case of your own doing not the ammo, by creating to much pressure.No ammo company gonna bend over or do anything for your own mistakes.For heaven sakes clean your gun when going from small cartridges to larger.
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it pays to be a bit meticulous sometimes. that is why we took the pictures, so that people could see what the deal is...first thing is check the pics...you can see the first shot primer shows no sign of pressure nor does the second one just a punctured primer. we should have stated or taken a pic of the ammo so then you could have seen buddy shoots jacketed bullets anyway, not some nasty lead rounds. you would have to shoot your wrist off to foul up a cylinder throat to point of generating high pressure with jacketed bullets:ar15: one more thing..the 454 takes small rifle primers not pistol primers.... factories do make mistakes...i just saw a lot of winchester 300 short mags that were blowing out primers. buddy called it in and sure enough there was a recall on that lot number...they were smokin hot.
 
Hornady writes back.

Just got an e-mail from hornady anthis is what they said, " we looked at the pictures.The primer is rounded indicating that it was not high press or the primer did not back up. they think it could have been a soft cup on the primer. We had not seen this problem before. "
 
May I ask, approximately how many rounds have you fired out of this gun? How many 454 Casull? How many 460 Magnum?

I would also contact S&W. Send them the pictures. It could be the hammer nose. It could be too long or too sharp.


Fudd
 
ElmerFudd, I have fired about 35 rounds of 460, 300 and some of 454 and about 500 of 45 ( just a guess) I have had one split case in 454 (a reload) in a winchester, I think it was just a bad case because we reloaded it just above min loads by one or two grains ( don't know the exact amount I do not have the paper work here!) Other then these two problems the 460 has done its job!!!:cheers:
 
panda1 said:
GarethSt................The 500 is a nice firearm, but at 65 dollars plus for rounds just a little on the pricey side and that is if you can find them........so when you run out of 500's I will still be shooting my 460 :cool:
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Not when you re-load. I'm waiting for my 570/700 grain :D custom molds.

In the meantime I can 500gr XTP , 350/400 Sierra JSP and 440 grain lead. Mild to hand thumpers.

H110 and 4759 are great powders for the big Smith.
 
Paulinski said:
Not when you re-load. I'm waiting for my 570/700 grain :D custom molds.

In the meantime I can 500gr XTP , 350/400 Sierra JSP and 440 grain lead. Mild to hand thumpers.

H110 and 4759 are great powders for the big Smith.
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I have a variety of cast bullets I've used from a 350gr PB to a 440gr GC and with light and heavy loads the 440gr comes out on top.

With jacketed bullets, there are three that seem to deliver the best accuracy for me. The Hornady 350gr XTP/MAG, the Sierra 350gr JHP and a 'modified' version of the Speer 325gr HP.

Powder, for heavy loads, H110, Starline brass and large rifle primers. For light loads, Unique, Hornady brass and large pistol primers.
 
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