Action shooting games with .22lr???

Canuck44 said:
If it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck ....well call it what you want. We enjoy our .22 pistols shooting IDPA stages with IDPA rules by guys who are all registered IDPA shooters at a affiliated IDPA club.

We like to refer to it as shooitng idpa vs center fire pistols when we should IDPA.:D
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Bob..

Official IDPA website said:
What is IDPA?
IDPA as a sport is quite simply the use of practical equipment including full charge service ammunition to solve simulated “real world” self-defense scenarios. Shooters competing in IDPA events are required to use practical handguns and holsters that are truly suitable for self-defense use. No “competition only” equipment is permitted in IDPA matches since the main goal is to test the skill and ability of an individual, not his equipment or gamesmanship.
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using a .22lr certainly looks like a plastic rubber ducky , when compared to the real duck!!

It's not IDPA as per the original and official intent of IDPA (just like it's not IPSC)

Why don't they just call it action .22 pistol , and they can use what ever rules they like, and call it want they want, (but not IDPA or IPSC).
 
why are you arguing, bob simply said that they are shooting rimfires using IDPA rules, at an IDPA club for non sanctioned non IDPA matches in the winter.... using IDPA style courses of fire.

why get so defensive, ??? (pun intended)

frankly for our IDPA practice nights you shoot what you brung or feel like shhoting, we have had an 8 - 9 year old using his walther p22 with a holster his dad made for the last year, if it is a non sanctioned and is only a practice match whats the big deal.... hell whats the big deal calling it IDPA as well...
 
Westicle said:
why get so defensive, ??? (pun intended)... hell whats the big deal calling it IDPA as well...
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Maybe it's because this forum is full of threads of rules lawyers (and threats of actual lawyers) jumping down each others throats to make sure that the copyrights, rules names etc... are all respected?

Remember the thread on IDPA vs. 'x'DPA? :rolleyes:

Regardless, mini-rifle sounds like fun and I think that if a club out here created .22lr only events, they would be very popular!
 
Sorry for getting here late, as both Canuck23 and gambit said there is a provision for shooting 22lr handguns in NRA action pistol matches at the regional and State or lower levels.
Same course of fire as the big guns and yes they do knock over the steel targets that we use because there are either sets of plates calibrated for them or we have thinner ones(1/4" instead of 3/8').
Check out nrahq.org under competitions, or there is always the match in august at Barrie if you want to try it.
 
BCRider said:
TangoSixNiner, it IS a ton of fun and there's not a lot of standing around either. And because the targets don't fall over there's no resetting. Going through all 6 strings in one go makes for doing a lot of shooting too.

The next event is coming up this weekend. I'm all a'giggle in anticipation.... :D
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Where can I find more info on 'Properly' setting up one of these matches (ie. proper steel targets, safe steel angles, steel shooting regulations). A local club around here is against "steel targets", but I'd like to see if theres a way to maybe sway that mind thought?
 
raks said:
Maybe it's because this forum is full of threads of rules lawyers (and threats of actual lawyers) jumping down each others throats to make sure that the copyrights, rules names etc... are all respected?

If you are a Affiliated IDPA club you can shoot IDPA matches and promote yourself as an IDPA club. Members get to be recognized as shooting the sport, and their classifications recognized. If not you can't. Life is simple why make it complicated? Seems to me if you want to play the sport you ought to help pay for it. If you want to play something else, fill your boots, just don't call it IDPA.

Take Care

Bob
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mrclean said:
Check out nrahq.org under competitions, or there is always the match in august at Barrie if you want to try it.
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Are you refering to the Level 1 IPSC match at the Barrie Gun Club on Aug 1st?

Myself and two friends are trying to sign up for that match.

If not who should I be contacting?
 
ckc123 said:
Why don't they just call it action .22 pistol , and they can use what ever rules they like, and call it want they want, (but not IDPA or IPSC).
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Because we like little idpa better. Being an affiliated IDPA club we offend no one. The club has the blessing of HQ and the Area Coordinator for Canada. I have heard the AC can be very accomdating when deciding on anything that promotes pistol shooting sports in Canada. :D

Take Care

Bob
 
raks said:
I fully agree! A .22 has no place in IDPA proper.
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That is why we call it idap as opposed to IDPA.:D Incidently we aren't the only club that shoots idpa. There is a large club in Seattle who shoots it for fun during the winter as well. You really have to lighten up. Nothing official, just guys out shooting a match for the hell of it when it is -10C. This may blow your mind but some even shoot from concealment. You don't want to shoot it...don't. I have to tell you though you are missing out on a lot of fun.

Take Care

Bob
 
It was not my intention to start a debate on one discipline over another. Let alone suggest that rimfire be considered into such disciplines.

I'm just having so much fun plinking with my S&W 422 that I wish I could take it up a notch. Not only is the ammo so cheap but the truth is I'm having a hard time getting 9mm at a reasonable price. Still waiting on SFRC to get their order of WOLF and they're both in Kingston. As for reloading... where are all the small pistol primers... nobody has any in stock. I only have 600 primers left.

Then I'm drooling over the Colt M4 and read up on the Sig Sauer 522. You have a conversion unit for the HK G3 and so on. Then you have the Advantage and Kimber conversion kits and there is the Sig P226 Classic 22, Mosquito and the Walther P22... I'm seeing a trend towards .22lr as a alternative to shooting full loads. Could it be the economy and rimfire as a cheap alternative to practicing for what ever or is it the war and that is why the shortage of ammo. Check out page 94 - 99 of the recent issue of Guns&Ammo's Complete Book of Rimfires magazine.

Regardless of the reason I see a following for full size full loads shooting games, you have your air rifle FT compititions and then there is the Airsoft and Paintball culture.... but unless I'm blind and not using Google properly.... I don't see any rimfire shooting games in Ontario.
 
I don't think you're blind or your google-fu is weak. I went through the same searches and didn't find much at all.

Locally here in the lower mainland there was a couple of rounds of .22 Tactical Carbine held by the Thompson Mountain club a bit over a year ago. Nothing since. I'm lucky that the Mission club hosts this Speed Steel event and that there's a class for .22 in it. They also host a monthly Rimfire Silhouette event that I'm going to try this coming weekend.

But other than this there's not much I can see here in the lower mainland. Looking around more widely there's that "IDPA like" event that Canuck44's group held but it's way too far to drive in the winter.

And that was about it other than other clubs that host Steel Silhouette shooting. But that's intended for rifle.

So if you want to bump it a notch it looks like it'll be up to you to do the bumping. The good news is that for .22 and the lower powered centerfire guns you don't need the crazy strong steel armor plate for the targets. Just a decent quality high strength alloy should stand up well. Obviously no magnum rounds and don't let anyone shoot the steel jacketed Tokarev stuff either and some targets made from 1/2 inch plate should last for years.

In our club the stands are made from welded up 3/4 inch re-bar. It's tough and stands up well to the odd hit. They are a tripod setup with a simple Z hook up top. The targets are made from circles with a 1 inch nut welded on the back that hooks over the Z bend on the stand. This rear mounting encourages the disc (or square for a couple of bigger ones for the longer range stuff) to hang at a sligt angle so the spray of the bullets when they hit and disintegrate is directed down into the ground. Along with the single target stands we also have a couple of "Christmas trees" that have a central upright and four branches to hang the targets on. Or you could do it so it holds three across the top. Lots of options as long as they are all compatible.

If you're getting the stuff cut for you it may pay to get them cut as squares and then weld the nuts on so they hang at an angle to form a diamond. Cheaper cutting charges and still stable on the hanger.

Shouldn't cost more than a couple of hundred to get set up if someone in the club can do the cutting, bending and welding. See if the club will front the money for the materials.

That 422 sure is a nice gun, eh? I'll be using my own 422 in the Speed Steel event this Saturday for one of the matches and likely either a revolver or my Shadow for the other.
 
The ROC

My advice is to get involved with your club. Ask around to see if anyone is interested in shooting idpa or Action Pistol, ipsc with a .22lr pistol or BB Guns with an Attitude. If there is an interest, organize a match and have at it. Loads of fun but as some have alluded to there are lots of wanters in shooting but not a lot of volunteers to do the doing. The work load has to be shared so if you are interested, get involved, organize a match and see who shows. If you don't have the time, are to busy or have other things to do then wait until somebody else steps up to the plate.

Take Care

Bob
 
ROC, the match at barrie that i was refering to is the one on the weekend of the 22nd and it is an Action Pistol match.( there is another post going on for it)
Keep your eye on the online signup for the level I IPSC match at the start of August.
Thanks.
 
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