Mannlicher-Carcano -> Gew 98?

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Good morning fellow Milsup enthusiasts.
Being on the look out for a Gew 98, I came accross an interesting sell but questions marks instantly sprang up when I saw the less than perfect image.
Have the Gewehr-98 Mauser rifles ever been equiped with Mannlicher-Carcano model 1891 like Magazines?

Or could this be the case of a mistaken Identity? (Which I am guessing.)

The following is a Mannlicher-Carcano for reference on the part I am talking about.
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Thanks
 
THAT rifle is a Carcano....

The Germans did refurbish some to take the 8mm cartridge....

I would not shoot 8mm in that action
John
 
johnone said:
THAT rifle is a Carcano....

The Germans did refurbish some to take the 8mm cartridge....

I would not shoot 8mm in that action
John
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Rumours of the weak carcano are greatly exaggerated, JFK's assassination and the resulting bad press did more to denigrate it than any facts. Donate it to me, and I'll shoot it till the cows come home.
 
Some early Mausers, such as the 1889 Belgian and 1891 Argentine, had a single-column magazine that protruded below the stock, but they used chargers, rather than a Mannlicher-style clip.

The Gewehr 88 (aka Commission Rifle) is actually not a Mauser design at all. It is actually similar to a Carcano or the turnbolt Mannlicher actions.
 
The Germans rechambered 6.5 Carcanos to 8mm as last ditch defence rifles as it became obvious to everyone they were losing the War............Shoot at own risk...Harold
 
The picture is a Carcano, yes, I put it as an exemple of the feature I was stressing.
I contacted the seller and it is indeed a Gew 88.

Anyone owns one around here? How well does it shoot? Any defects or markings I should look for?
Its got me interested in perhaps purchasing such a rifle, gather a collection of german WWI-WWII rifles.
 
bambam650 said:
gallen270 said:
those were purchased by eatons and sporterized by cooey for sale in the department stores. they pop up on the EE alot.[/QUOT

Do you know if they are worth anything? Mine has a cracked stock and I am wondering if it is worth fixing.
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not a ton. i had one given to me last year. a friends father thought it was a 6.5x55 hen he bought it. when i told him otherwise, he said 'here ya go, no good to me'. i didnt ask what he paid, but i doubt it was much. fix that crack as a project, wouldnt be expensive, and some of those guns can be rebarreled, or maybe bill hammond could make you a sub caliber device for it.
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Many 7.35's were rechambered 6.5'sAlso the cooey Eaton's model was rechambered to 6.5x54 MS for ammo availability............careful what you're feeding them.Harold
 
I have never had a Carcano but the action visually is almost identical to my Gewehr 88. The 88's action is quite weak compared to the 98 as the 88's bolt has only two front locking lugs. Thats is all that is keep that pressure from the fired round from blowing the bolt back into your face and is noted time and time again that users who aim Gewehr 88s do not fire .323 heavy spitzers (i.e. Yugo military ball ammo) in a Gewehr 88 as the pressures will blow the action apart.

The Gewehr 98, and subsequent rifles that were built with the same action and bolt, had three locking lugs, two in the front with a fixed bolt head (versus the movable one on the 88's bolt) and one in the rear of the action where the bolt stop is located. When locked down, the bolt is right up against the rear of the action whereas the 88's bolt has about 1 inch of space.

In summary, I would never fire .323 heavy spitzer in my 88 and I sure as heck would not do it in any Carcano because the action to me looks identical to my 88 and I am sure the operating pressures are about the same.
 
How do you like your 88 Nabs? I have a couple of 98 variants (m98b, m48BO) and am looking into the 88, maybe as a next purchase once the christmas season passes. I ended up buying the m98b instead of the 88 I was looking at last time.
 
I really do love my Gewehr 88 because there is so much history behind it's development. I have not had a chance to fire mine at the range but I was told countless times to slug the bore and find out the bore dimensions as so many changes were being conducted to the firearms and the rounds they used at the turn of the century.

Overall feel on mine is very nice considering the age of the stock. She is also very light compared to my Kar98k and has a very smooth action. She will be a bit more awkward to handle compared to a M48BO or a Gewehr 98 but you can get use to that. Even through the bolt is straight, I can still operate it as fast (if not faster) than my Gewehr 98b and Kar98k.

Most of the ones you will find that are still in their original configuration are ones given to the Turkish during 1916-1917(my Gewehr 88 is one of these). You can tell apart by the mixture of German proof marks alongside Turkish but one of the biggest is the rear sight was ground off and re-stamped for Arabic numbers.

In short, I love my 88, just as much as the Gewehr 98.
 
We need more info and threads about Gew 88's on here. I hardly know a thing about them but the one I have is beautiful. I have never shot it and apart from the turk marked bolt, arabic rear sight and german unit B10RR250 marked on it, I really know nothing about its history and development.
 
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