AR upper in 7.62x25

7.62x25 is really inexpensive, accurate and performs much better out of longer barrels (ever seen the fireball at the muzzle of a tok?).

There's also a pretty good chance that Joe knows some people who have access to very large quantities of that ammunition. Actually I'm surprised he hasn't built a 7.62x39 upper, the design work is already done (by Colt in the '80's).
 
If you mean a "+2" thinghie, I will look into that.


Edit: yes, technically, it should work.
Legally? I think it is a very viable option.
 
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Even if it is re-manufacturing,
if it fits (and function in) the TT33, it still is a pistol mag,
so it can be a good legal option, IMO.

Agreed. We just have to make sure that our collective ass is covered when it comes to staying legal... They try too hard to make us criminals. :(
 
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Yes, I completely agree.
And that was the whole idea when I started this thread
and ask the collective intelligence for options.
The solution, if it exists,
has to be completely waterproof concerning the legality of the whole thing.
 
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9mm Largo mags might work. There were several pistols and rifles made to chamber the cartridge and even an SMG (Spanish Star Z-45). I think Llama made 1911 style pistol in that chambering with a 9 round mag...but finding those mags would probably be tough...

3W.9mmlargo.com/

I still thinks Decks idea of modding a Tok mag would be easiest.You wold have to use two mags to make one, but it should work nicely if you can find a spring that is long enough...
 
I still thinks Decks idea of modding a Tok mag would be easiest.You wold have to use two mags to make one, but it should work nicely if you can find a spring that is long enough...
Deckard is not talking about extending a mag by using a second mag.
In my understanding he is talking about the "+2" extensions.
These are little thinghies that replace the mag floor plate
(on the same principle like the mag extension for tube-mag shotguns).
They look like this:

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http://www.pearcegrip.com/beretta_p2.htm




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Deckard is not talking about extending a mag by using a second mag.
In my understanding he is talking about the "+2" extensions.
These are little thinghies that replace the mag floor plate
(on the same principle like the mag extension for tube-mag shotguns).

Yes that is what I understood, and Decks theory is still sound, it's just probably more expensive to fabricate.

Cutting the bottom quarter off an existing Tok mag, removing the base plate (or cutting it off -I don't have a Tok mag so I don't know how it's assembled) then welding the bottom portion to the top mag would make a MUCH easier solution and probably a lot cheaper than fabricating a "+2"....It may take some careful measuring and trial and error (duct Tape is your friend) but this should work just fine, given you can find a suitable spring, and who knows, perhaps the existing spring would work just fine...

Maybe I'm wrong...but Tok mags can be found fairly cheap...

Also - PM SENT.
 
Or a small rectangular 'bread pan' could be stamped out and then spot welded to a Tokarev magazine. It would not be able to be dissasembled, but it would be cheaper and easier.
 
I think these guys make a 7.62x25 upper. But no pistol mag :(

http ://cncgunsparts.com/home


US$850 per upper and US$25 a mag?

Even if we could order that out of the states, that is a little pricey. 7.62x25 isn't that cheap compared to .223. For CAN$900 I can get 2000 rounds of PMC out of a Quebec dealer.

I have a case of 7.62x25 for my Tokarev and I welcome a conversion upper for my AR, but I ain't buyin if it costs a grand by the time it gets to my house.

Just my $0.02
 
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