PMAG's from $29.99

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PMAG 30/5 magazines from $29.99 each for 5-PAK Bundle
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Mark
 
Raytheon said:
Any chance of you getting more Pmags in soon?
Thanks in advance.
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Probably not... just not worthwhile for us to do it at those prices.

At $39.99 it's worth doing but not sure how much interest there is at that price point. I kept seeing POSTs that PMAG's should be selling for $20 in Canada and that we were "high" at $29.99... so we basically moved on to other things.

Maybe we'll try another shipment, but nothing is in the works right now.

Mark
 
Thanks for the information.

I've haven't seen anyone selling PMags for around $20 (probably all of them are already purchased). I would consider that a steal consider they are practically indestructible and completely reliable.
 
hfp75 said:
How are the mags crippled?

pinned I'm in..... JBweld or melted plastic.... nope
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The magazines were drilled and pop-riveted... then the rivet heads were were filed down and then topped with a layer of high strenght epoxy that bonded them securely to the mag body.

Then they were individually tested for fit and 'drop free' in various lowers, painted to touch up where the pinning was performed and finally they were tested to insure only 5 rounds would fit (not 6) :)

All in all a rather time consuming and labour intensive process.

The final results...

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Like I said... it simply didn't pay to do this at $29.99... to make this all worthwhile we'd need to get $39.99 for them.

Mark
 
Questar said:
The magazines were drilled and pop-riveted... then the rivet heads were were filed down and then topped with a layer of high strenght epoxy that bonded them securely to the mag body.

Then they were individually tested for fit and 'drop free' in various lowers, painted to touch up where the pinning was performed and finally they were tested to insure only 5 rounds would fit (not 6) :)

All in all a rather time consuming and labour intensive process.

The final results...

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Like I said... it simply didn't pay to do this at $29.99... to make this all worthwhile we'd need to get $39.99 for them.

Mark
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Well when you do all certainly buy a couple.
 
The $20 price tag came from a couple of jerks around here that thinks dealers should sell mags at a lost, because the US online discounters is selling them at below MSRP, so we should be getting the same deal up here.

The added cost of getting them pin, tested and bring into the country, is totally irrelevant to the pricing of the products, I don't blame Questar not wanting to bring any of these in anymore, even though I do love the 5 pack I bought from the last batch.




Raytheon said:
Thanks for the information.

I've haven't seen anyone selling PMags for around $20 (probably all of them are already purchased). I would consider that a steal consider they are practically indestructible and completely reliable.
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hbean said:
The $20 price tag came from a couple of jerks around here that thinks dealers should sell mags at a lost, because the US online discounters is selling them at below MSRP, so we should be getting the same deal up here.

The added cost of getting them pin, tested and bring into the country.........
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Online discounters? MSRP is exactly what it says. Suggested. Because a store sells it for $13 doesn't make it a 'Discount' store.

Why can't we get cheap mags?
Why is there no $15-$18 5 round mag?

They sell mags already lanced for $14-$15.....

All we get is $40-$50 mags...

There is some guy selling $12 C Products mags for $50 in the EE... Go and load up!
 
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rivetc78 said:
They sell mags already lanced for $14-$15.....
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That is BS... I buy distributor pricing and I can't buy 30 lanced to 5 magazines from CProducts for $14 to $15 so I challenge you to back up that statement. The CProducts 5 round magazine is a short 5 round magazine not a 30 round lanced. CProducts doesn't even list a 30 lanced to 5 on their website... they don't get any demand for them and Canadian orders are a joke... not enought to bother with.

They do offer a 30 lanced to 15 magazine as a stock item... they do them in huge runs and the demand for them in the US is substantial... but our volumes in Canada aren't enough to even interest them. We asked CProducts to do a run of 308 magazines (20 lanced to 5) and they refused... said there wasn't enough volume to even bother with... not even for a large premium so that should tell you something.

CProducts is very hesitant to lance 5 round magazines because of the issues they've had in past and we ended up having to manually check every one because of the issues that we experienced in past with them holding too many rounds. Because Canadian orders are so small (compared to US volumes) the charge to do a special run of lanced 5 round magazines is ridiculous... but it's still cheaper than for us to buy 30 round aluminum and pin them ourselves.

I've said it before and I'll say it again... I don't work for free... maybe you do but I don't. My staff expects to get paid... so does the landlord, the utilities, the insurance company and everyone else. We charge what we charge and anyone who doesn't like the price can buy somewhere else... no arguments.

But please have some respect... you imply we (and others) overcharge for magazines... prove your point by doing the job yourself... go through all the hassles and paperwork to import 500 or 1,000 of these... pre-pay the goods and shipment, pay customs charges, brokerage and overheads... then let all of us know how much money you made (lost) selling them at $15 to $20. Can't wait to see it. Hey, if you can do it then you've accomplished something that no-one else was able to do and you'll have yourself a great business since the demand should keep you VERY VERY BUSY!

The fact that absolutely no-one is doing it should tell you something... it simply isn't feasible to do... but hey... prove me wrong. I've been wrong before and will probably be wrong many more times in future.

Mark
 
DaveMachine said:
Can you seat these mags on a closed bolt with 5 in the mag? I've got a few P-mags that are pinned so tightly that it's impossible.
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We try to pin them that way but sometimes they are a bit tight... we have to err on the side of caution :)

Most of the ones that I tried (the last time we imported them) would insert on a closed bolt... but I didn't try them all either so can't be 100% sure.

I'm not sure we'll be bringing anymore in... as I said earlier in this THREAD any future shipment would be priced at $39.99 each to make it worth our while and there seems to be a lot of people who think that's too much, so we'll probably just forget about it and let someone else import them and sell them cheaper... we just can't afford to do it... it's as simple as that.

Mark
 
Questar said:
We try to pin them that way but sometimes they are a bit tight... we have to err on the side of caution :)
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I've give you that, but you don't need a whole lot of extra room to be able to seat the mag and have enough extra space to be able to pull the charging handle back. As long as you can't put a sixth round in you are good to go, no?

Questar said:
I'm not sure we'll be bringing anymore in... as I said earlier in this THREAD any future shipment would be priced at $39.99 each to make it worth our while and there seems to be a lot of people who think that's too much, so we'll probably just forget about it and let someone else import them and sell them cheaper... we just can't afford to do it... it's as simple as that.

Mark
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While I don't like paying $40 for an item that retails for much cheaper in the states, I do understand where you are coming from. You've gotta make a profit too. Either way, it's better than the $60 that ATRS is charging.
 
DaveMachine said:
I've give you that, but you don't need a whole lot of extra room to be able to seat the mag and have enough extra space to be able to pull the charging handle back. As long as you can't put a sixth round in you are good to go, no?



While I don't like paying $40 for an item that retails for much cheaper in the states, I do understand where you are coming from. You've gotta make a profit too. Either way, it's better than the $60 that ATRS is charging.
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I keep hearing people say that, "... an item that retails for much cheaper in the states"... but that's just not accurate. The "item" that sells in the United States for $12 or $15 is in fact a "Prohibited Device" in this country. You cannot legally import that item to Canada. Let's get that straight.

When we sell you a PMAG for $39.99 (as an example) you are in fact paying something along the following lines...

  • @ $16.00 US to cover the magazine
  • @ $ 6.00 US to cover the pinning process
  • @ $ 2.20 US to our US office to handle export paperwork involved to legally be able to ship the magazines out of the US... and that's only if we do them in 100's. The permit alone is $250 US plus our time and our base fee to State Department.
  • @ $ 2.42 to cover the cost of currency exchange
  • @ $ 1.00 to transport them from the US to Canada and process the Canada Customs paperwork, brokerage, inspection and clearance

So far you've got nearly $28.00 Canadian and we haven't added a penny for our (Canadian office) work or effort or costs on the sales side. When we sold them for $29.99 we made bugger all and that's why I said I wouldn't do it again. If we sell them for $39.99 then we GROSS @ $12.00 on a $40 item (that's a 30% GROSS profit margin). Deduct from that @ 4% (that's what it costs to take credit card payment) and you're left with @ $11.50

So out of that $40 we make $11.50 and out of that we have to pay all of the costs at this end associated with the importation, office overheads, labour for staff to receive the import shipment and to process each and every sales shipment outbound, packaging costs, phones, insurance... and the list goes on.

Those that think it's robbery charging $40 for a $16 US item are naive and simply unaware of what's involved. I invite anyone who thinks this is easy and "easy money" to step in and give it a try.

Bottom line... when you pay $40 for a $16 PMAG you are in fact paying @ $16 for the PMAG and you're paying @ $24 for all of the other costs and value added services that are necessary to get that mag here into Canada and into your hands.

If you can do it for less then please do...

Mark
 
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