Buying Reloads

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I bought up some reloads recently, and in checking the chambering found them tight to no go. I've since been pulling them and finding the powder loads a bit on the hot side with all but a few powder loads. I wish I knew what the powder even was.
When I got them found is top sercet but that person told me they were reloads and knew I had the common sense to check everything.
I moral of the story is double check and measure everything twice even with your own creations.

Driller
 
I personally would never buy reloads from anybody, and don't recomend anyone else do it either. That being said anytime I do reload for freinds or family I will not begin until they bring there rifle over to use as a guide during the whole process just as I am building a load for one of my own rifles. Good thing you checked them!
 
If the seller is secreteve about components - walk away at once.

The only way to buy reloads is if you'd trust your life to the person who made them.
 
CeeZer said:
If the seller is secreteve about components - walk away at once.

The only way to buy reloads is if you'd trust your life to the person who made them.
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No disagreement there and it's also bushing the side of the law to sell them unless your a lisenced manufacturer. I wanted the brass more then anything and it was known between us, I was going to pull them apart.
I've ran into the odd bad sizing die over time too!


Driller
 
It’s illegal to sell reloaded ammo if you’re not an approved and licensed reloaded. Each calibre you sell has to be tested and approved for sale.
 
I got some reloads from some one before (member of this site.) and before I shot them I pulled out my gram scale and 1 of them was a double charge. Good thing I looked at them. No more will I trust some ones reloads unless it is a black powder reload.
 
Agreed, I don't even trust my Lee Load All to do the powder charge. I hand scoop and measure each charge on my scale. It takes a little longer but I know exactly what each shell has in it.

I won't give shells to my friends or take any from them. If a friend wants to try some of my reloads I will lend them my shotgun to shoot the reloads with because I have already tested the loads in that gun and know everything is safe.

Call me paranoid but it is a real eye opener to see what such a small amount of powder can do.

Cactus
 
I know of a case when not one, but 3 rifles were demolished by one reloader. Fortunately, no one was injured, but a very stern lesson. [wrong powder used] This guy bought new rifles for his two buddies and for himself. He said never again! Regards, Eagleye.
 
This is exactly why you don't buy reloads from people without seeing their cartridge reloading cert from NRC, they also need a firearms business license to sell ammunition.
 
I bought some reloads once, I paid (if memory serves) $15 for 100 reloaded rounds.

I didn't shoot them untill I had pulled the bullet (I kept them, still have them in a baggie somewhere), poured out the powder into the garbage, neck sized the brass, and then loaded to my own specs......

That was 12 yrs ago..... I have never bothered again, too much farting around, takes me less time to just start with my own brass.
 
Driller said:
...I've since been pulling them and finding the powder loads a bit on the hot side with all but a few powder loads. I wish I knew what the powder even was....
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If you don't know what the powder is, how do you know that the charges were on the hot side by pulling them?
 
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Unknowingly bought some 45-70 from a guy who told me they were factory.....kicked quite a bit more than the remington fodder....bullets were 350 gr. which could not have been from said factory and some did not cycle in a marlin guide gun....? Good thing I didnt' load them into an old trapdoor Springfield etc.
 
Just a guess, maybe he put the cases on the scale with the powder still in them before he dumped it and there were big differences???

Without knowing the powder, that seems to me to be the easiest and only way to check.

Cactus
 
TwoTone said:
If you don't know what the powder is, how do you know that the charges were on the hot side by pulling them?
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"I've since been pulling them and finding the powder loads a bit on the hot side with all but a few powder loads."
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To answer your question, it was by checking "tested loads recipes" in about half a dozen different load books and on the net. With 250 different powder brands types and chemical make ups on the market, you always should start with a low known powder charge and work your way up within that recipe guideline using the same firearm and document everything.
They were pull usiing the hammer and not a die and measure on digital gram scale that accurate to 1/10 of one grain.
I also had some split casings to boot and I'm debating about annealing all the brass before loading it.


Driller
 
Cactus said:
Just a guess, maybe he put the cases on the scale with the powder still in them before he dumped it and there were big differences???

Without knowing the powder, that seems to me to be the easiest and only way to check.

Cactus
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That would tell him there's a variation, not that the loads are hot.

Driller said:
To answer your question, it was by checking "tested loads recipes" in about half a dozen different load books and on the net...
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That still doesn't explain how you came to the conclusion that the loads were hot without having identified the powder.

I get a feeling this isn't going anywhere...
 
Cerdan said:
That would tell him there's a variation, not that the loads are hot.

That still doesn't explain how you came to the conclusion that the loads were hot without having identified the powder.

I get a feeling this isn't going anywhere...
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I could go slower, but I still don't think, you'd get it! :confused:

Driller
 
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