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tiriaq said:
Does the NFA and CSSA know about this?
This creates an absolutely remarkable precedent!
A firearm prohibited as full auto gets converted to semi auto, and is reregistered as restricted!
Copies of the original and replacement registration certificates should be sent to the NFA and CSSA.
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######## apparently want nothing to do with the CSSA or the NFA.
 
That's all very well, but the RCMP allowing guns classified as machine guns to be reregistered as semi auto is an enormous breakthrough! A remarkable precedent!
Doesn't really matter if ######## has any involvement with NFA/CSSA or not. Now that they are aware of this dramatic development, they can use it in any related dealings with the RCMP.
 
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Mine printed a nice 10 round group at about the 2"-ish size at 10 meters.

At 100m, that'd equate to about 20 inches.

At 200m, that'd be 40 inches. Ish.

With more practice, it might end up better than that, but for now, that's a pretty good guestimate for what one could do.

I'd be pleased with a 20" group at 100m.

NS
 
I watched a friend break three clay pigeons with 5 shots at 100 yards with a Mk. III gun. Prone, forearm rest.
Stens shoot a lot better than most folks expect.
My III was more accurate than my II. A V can be zeroed more easily, of course.
 
Just a Sten Story...

Back in the mid '80s I lived in Victoria, BC and bought 350 dewat Stens from a metal scrap dealer in the area for 50-cents each. Though all were torched from A--hole to Appetite, I managed to get the majority to "#### and click."

At the time there was a gun publication called The Gun Runner and I advertised them there for $9 each. Some were covered with Chinese characters, intended for WW II Allies.

I managed to sell several but nothing really worthwhile and a lot of work packing and shipping, so I traded them to a local "hot shot" gun dealer for a nice old Luger.

Somewhere stashed away I've got a photo of that pile of Stens laying out in our carport behind our house.

I sure wish now I'd kept one of those marked in Chinese.

Best regards ~ ~ ~ mauser

Even a blind squirrel finds an acorn once in a while.
 
Sorry, NavyShooter, but I guess I tossed all those photos when I "purified" my .22rf single-shot collection last January by selling off a big batch of firearms which no longer fit my collecting parameters - that Shansei was one of the sell-off victims.

I've got some large photos in file of the gun, even one with ammo, but not that exact one used in the avatar.

Lemme' know if you'd like any of those and I'll be happy to email some hi-res copies to you.

Best regards ~ ~ ~ mauser
 
Yep! One of the later ones made in China's Shansei Arsenal, NOT the old WW II guns made there. Most of those newer ones were very poorly machined. This one with a 3-digit serial number was beautifully crafted. I see GI Jeff has one nearly identical and his is higher priced than the usual later ones.

When an old one from the '40s comes up for sale I notice they don't go for very much more than these later ones. Just not a big demand for any of them I guess, except as a curiosity.

Best regards ~ ~ ~ mauser
 
czechitout said:
...It's about what FRT# they have. There was a court case brought by ######## as the CFC revoked the registrations. The CFC agreed to register them with a slight modification. ######## then recalled the stens they had sold, modified them to the approved standard and returned them. There is hardly any difference to how they were originally. The CFC have issued a new FRT # and new registration certificates for ######## guns.
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Bumped up for interest.
This is potentially a major development.
Firearms which had been transferred to private ownership were classified as prohibited machineguns. They then had minor modifications performed and were reregistered with new FRT numbers as restricted semi autos.
Yet somehow they were not considered to be converted autos.
A manufacturer's sample, submittted for evaluation, is one thing.
A firearm which was transferred into private hands is quite another.
Does anyone have any further knowledge of this situation?
 
tiriaq said:
Bumped up for interest.
This is potentially a major development.
Firearms which had been transferred to private ownership were classified as prohibited machineguns. They then had minor modifications performed and were reregistered with new FRT numbers as restricted semi autos.
Yet somehow they were not considered to be converted autos.
A manufacturer's sample, submittted for evaluation, is one thing.
A firearm which was transferred into private hands is quite another.
Does anyone have any further knowledge of this situation?
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Exactly....

If I could ever get a FAL or a BREN because of this, then that would be truly amazing.
 
I cant even begin to thunk how that could be used to 'our' advantage...

Simply understanding current regs requires a computer called deep thought....

Isnt there ONE damm lawyer in this country who owns guns???
 
Lawyers who own guns? , yes of course there are but the Law Society's they all have to belong to have their own "agenda's" for "social engineering" and gun nutz are not a group of people that they care about or want to protect the rights and freedoms of.

Law society's are a very powerful part of the ruling elite in Canada, both Federally and Provincially. They are almost singularly responsible for nominating judges to the governments for appointments, among other things.
 
Spencer tried to work the system and got his guns prohibited.
He is still with us, of course, and posts regularly. It is surprising that he is not sharing his wisdom at canadiangunslingers.com
So far, the story about these two guns being reclassified is just a story.
 
czechitout said:
And he took them to court and got his guns unprohibited without even getting a court ruling.
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Too bad he didn't get a court ruling. It would have meant something. Of course, he could have been pooched. Better that he backed down, and withdrew his challenge.
One of his designs was "unprohibited". Others got cut up.
He had already been invited to alter and resubmit his design. Which he eventually did. If he hadn't tried to do an end run around having his guns inspected, and hadn't tried to get his guns registered through the back door, he wouldn't have wasted the better part of a year.
 
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