Pick my next deer gun

What .270 should I get

  • Remington 700 SPS DM

    Votes: 27 14.8%

  • Ruger M77

    Votes: 42 23.0%

  • Tikka T3 Lite

    Votes: 64 35.0%

  • Other

    Votes: 50 27.3%
  • Total voters
    183
kilgour77

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Hello all

I'm thinking of upgrading my deer rifle for next year, I am currently using a Savage 111 FCXP3 in .270 win. but am wanting to get into something with a bit better quality. I'm not going to be changing cartridges so the new one is going to be .270 win. as well, and I've narrowed it done to three possibles that I like that are all relatively close in price the Remington 700 SPS DM, Ruger M77, or Tikka T3 Lite. Or if there is anything else you like that's under $800 check other but please explain your answer.

Thanks-Kilgour77
 
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I think all three are great choices and you should decide based on how you like the fit and feel of them. If I had to pick the one most likely to shoot 2 shots through the same hole and cloverleaf the rest of them, I'd say the Tikka T3. It also has the nicest trigger without having to make any modifications. I'd rank them 1) T3 for accuracy and phenomenal factory trigger 2) Ruger for great looks, solid classic design, integral scope bases 3) Remington, a classic, but some #####ing lately about quality control.
 
I'd get a Sako. All the others are serviceable rifles, and in fact I own a Ruger 77 Hawkeye myself, but I don't see them as all THAT much of an upgrade over your Savage. If you want to upgrade, great. Aim a bit higher.
 
Kilo Charlie said:
I'd get a Sako. All the others are serviceable rifles, and in fact I own a Ruger 77 Hawkeye myself, but I don't see them as all THAT much of an upgrade over your Savage. If you want to upgrade, great. Aim a bit higher.
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I own a Model 85 LSS and have owned Model 700's, and Savages and have shot and handled on a regular basis a Ruger M77 MKII and Model 7.

I don't find my Sako shoots any better or worse than any of the other ones. Mind you I'm only a youngin' and havent seen it all, but just offering my opinion.

Even as far as "fit and finish" go when comparing the Sako to Remingtons and Rugers, I find little difference to justify the price.

If it were me I'd get a Ruger Hawkeye S/S in .280 :) . Just my opinion though!
 
Grizzlypeg said:
I think all three are great choices and you should decide based on how you like the fit and feel of them. If I had to pick the one most likely to shoot 2 shots through the same hole and cloverleaf the rest of them, I'd say the Tikka T3. It also has the nicest trigger without having to make any modifications. I'd rank them 1) T3 for accuracy and phenomenal factory trigger 2) Ruger for great looks, solid classic design, integral scope bases 3) Remington, a classic, but some #####ing lately about quality control.
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That's exactly what I'm looking for which of these will give me the best group out of the box, where I hunt there is the possibility for up to 500 yard shots and with the groups I've been getting with the Savage I just can't trust it to make that kind of shot.
 
all cars are built on assembly lines and prices and quality vary significantly, same goes for rifles. SAKO's are worth the price, you would know if you owned and fired them and compared them in real life situations. Sako Finnlights are magnificent guns and worth spending the extra money on, they hold there value better than the lesser guns also
 
dizzy said:
Sako Finnlights are magnificent guns and worth spending the extra money on, they hold there value better than the lesser guns also
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1850$ for an injection molded plastic stocked S/S fluted rifle :confused: .

or...800$ for an injection molded plastic stocked S/S rifle + 600$ for an McM EDGE...

Just crunchin' numbers here. As I've said before the Sako's are a nice rig, but 2G for the same stock you find on a 500$ SPS is kinda messed up :(
 
A few years back I had my heart set on a Tikka. Went to buy it, shouldered it and promptly fell outta love. Bought a Browning. Not an endorsement, just saying... Until you shoulder one you won't know for sure.
 
Screw on a Shilen on your Savage, slap on a McMil or similar stock, and you'll be shooting holes around all the above guns with not much more than what you'll spend if you buy any of those above guns. IMHO that would be my option and what I'd do if I were in your shoes.
 
International Harvester said:
Push feed is for fags. Search for a pre '64 Model 70 in .30-06. If you require better than that buy a Holland and Holland with a Mauser action, but it will cost you another 20yr mortgage. Best of luck IHC.
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What exactly makes the controlled feed better then a push feed?


I've asked this question a hundred times and I keep getting the same answers. I just keep reading the same things published in whatever months article written by col. Craig. Do you have anything fresh to tell me IH? :wave:
 
As a deer hunter, one of the more important gun feature to me would be the safety and how noisy it is when operated.

Second, would be the magazine....... a detachable magazine would be a must for me - just make sure that it locks securely and is not noisy when loaded. I would check this out before buying.

The weight would also be important and I would go for a synthetic camo stock if you can find one and stainless steel.

Also, a big factor for the Tikka would be if you mind plastic parts on a gun. The Tikka has a few but to me it's not a big factor.

At the moment, I have a Tikka T3 Lightweight in 300 WM for moose hunting, a Remington 700 SPS DM with camo synthetic stock S/S re-bored from 30-06 to 35 Whelen cut down to 20" for deer hunting in bushy areas with typical shots less that 50 yd.

I've had the Ruger 77 before but because it does not have a DM and the tang safety was noisy, I sold them and moved on. This is a fine gun, if you don't mind these 2 features..... I believe that the new 77 has a side safety now.

Also, my 700 has the safety that allows you to cycle the action with the safety on. Again, I find this to be very practical and safe when removing the shell in the chamber at the end of the day or when chambering a round at the start of the hunt.

My advise would be to handle each gun before making a decision and doing a Google search on the Internet looking for Reviews on these guns.

And last but not least, I would look at the Weatherby Vanguard. I have one with laminated stock and s/s in 257 Weatherby magnum and find it to be a beautiful gun and well made for the price ($700-800 available at much less depending on the package).

Also, look around for a used Tikka M65 Deluxe ..... you won't find a better quality gun for the price. These usually go for less than $800 in excellent condition.

Duke1
 
Aggreed

As people said before you need to pick the rifle that fits you and appeals to you the most. If your Savage has the accutrigger I dont think you will find a better out of the box rifle accuracy wise than a Savage for under $1000.

My advise would be to check out Hogue and buy a Overmolded stock for your savage, either the pillar bedded one or a full aluminum block bedded one. It would really breath some new life into your Savage, almost like having a new gun and the groups should get a bit better! Savage makes really great actions and triggers (accutrigger), I think it would be kinda foolish to spend $2000 on the same caliber rifle again. Savage's synthetic stocks are horrible pieces of junk. Check out Hogue, and you essentially will have a like new rifle for $150. Good Luck
 
International Harvester said:
Push feed is for fags. Search for a pre '64 Model 70 in .30-06. If you require better than that buy a Holland and Holland with a Mauser action, but it will cost you another 20yr mortgage. Best of luck IHC.
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Okay, in my very limited experience, the push and controlled feed each have their advantages and fans.

Spewing ignorant names around is crass, especially in this context. Shame on you.

Winchester's post 2007 M70s are fine rifles with nice recoil pads on the stocks, and finding one in good condition won't cost a mint, unlike really nice pre '64s.

.270 is a wicked cartridge for what the OP wants to do. There's not a whole lot of need for a 30-06 if the OP's already comfy with .270.

The world is full of great guns, so settling on either a classic m70 or a Holland and Holland seems... off.

To the OP, I was going to suggest one of the new Winchester m70s. They shoot minute-of-deer just fine. You have to keep them pretty clean for the best performance, but they're still nice, solid guns. I'm not sure what they go for right now, but I seem to remember seeing one for something like $850 last year. And I got my 2008 second hand for $800 from the EE. The safety was stiff and loud at first, but it's getting much better with use.

As for Tikkas, I really wanted to love 'em, but I shouldered one and immediately hated everything about it. YMMV. Actually, there are a lot of really nice guns out there these days. Some people have issues with the newest Remmies, but generally they're just fine. You'll also spend better if you can find a nice used rifle in good condition. You can pretty much pick the one that feels best and not worry about it too much.

But you've already got a nice, accurate firearm. Have you thought about maybe getting a nicer stock or higher-end glass instead?
 
Push feed vs. controlled feed?

He's asking about a deer rifle, not a stopping rifle.:rolleyes:

Buy whatever gun tickles your fancy.

Maybe buy a CRF if all the deer in your neighborhood are prone to bluff charges and attacks.:D
 
Of the three choices I'd go, in this order:

1. Tikka T3
2. Remington SPS DM
3. Ruger 77

You might find than none of them out shoot the Savage you are shooting right now, though. Me, I'd be inclined to upgrade the optics on the Savage if it was a package rifle and you are still using the econo scope that came on it over a new rifle. But then that's just me.

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