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hi Guys


i am looking at getting a 338 LM but here are my issues

1 can't really afford a full custom
2 can't really afford TRG sako either

i can afford 700P 338LM i see Russell's got them listed in their catalog
should i get one of those and start with that and tune it later on when can afford

also it appears that Savage is working on coming out with 338LM in the near future

Your taughts

tks 88
 
Bone said:
If you can't afford the rifle, can you afford to feed it? Not exactly a cheap round.
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+2, they are very expensive beasts to feed. The 338 Edge is cheaper to run, but the rifles will be in the same ballpark cost wise. Ask this question in the Precision Rifles forum, they have more experience with the big 338's than anybody.

Mark
 
Bone said:
If you can't afford the rifle, can you afford to feed it? Not exactly a cheap round.
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+1, there is nothing wrong with the 700P but you need a good scope too (.338lm for 100yard is a waist of $$$ so you are looking for a scope as expensive as the 700p it self) and around 7$/round, you should consider .300mag ??

What is the purpose of that rifle,
paper punching, hunting ?? more detail will be a more acurate answer !!

Respectfully
Marc
 
Figure $4-5 a round if you load your own..

I have nothing against Remington ... But wait for the savage:nest:

However you'll need good optics too.. and do you have a range that takes advantage of the 338 800m+
if not why not get into something a little more manageable to acquire with your budget and cheaper to operate..

a 308, a 300RUM
 
I was considering one until I saw that the barrel has a short life. That's one thing I think is overlooked. Its pretty close to $7 a bullet, but if you reload its considerably cheaper.

In the Russels 09-10 online mag:
I never saw a 338lm, just a 338 win mag and RUM. I never saw a 700p either.
 
what gets me is the initial buying of the rig
feeding it would not be too bad i would only fire 10 to 15 rounds since when i go to the range i take 3 or 4 rifles

i figure i could get at least 5 relaods out of a case so i would be buying casings every 2nd year or so
as far as bullets i would be buying bulk with 2 friends who own 338 WM so it would not be too bad maybe 300$ per year.

tks 88
 
anyone know when the Savage will be out if it is not just speculations ??

in the russell catalog version it is listed as 1299 $ for the MLR sniper of the 700P i did not look on line i will now

i figure 2000+ shots before rebarrelling is this realistic?

88
 
Sendero

sorry it would be for both paper punching and LR hunting but mostly paper punching and hitting the gong as well


right now my brother and i have 1000 yard and we will extend to 1500 in the spring


88
 
model88 said:
what gets me is the initial buying of the rig
feeding it would not be too bad i would only fire 10 to 15 rounds since when i go to the range i take 3 or 4 rifles

i figure i could get at least 5 relaods out of a case so i would be buying casings every 2nd year or so
as far as bullets i would be buying bulk with 2 friends who own 338 WM so it would not be too bad maybe 300$ per year.

tks 88
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If you're using Lapua brass, you'll get more than 5 reloads. I'm not there yet but I think 10+ is the general life expectancy.
 
Despite common opinion rifles that deliver 1500 yard precision accuracy with a 300 grain .338 bullet don't come cheap.

The TRG comes with a twist best suited to 250 grain bullets and (in my opinion) the 300gr bullets is where it is at at very long range.
Once you get way out there every little bit helps and the 300gr SMk offers an advantage in the wind that you can't get from a 250 grain bullet.

That more or less leaves you with something like the AI or a custom built rifle.

Unless you are already a proficient long range shooter your budget values assigned to reloading components are unrealistic and well....Experienced shooters don't generally ask such questions.

You are probably a lot better off with a 7mm or a 300.
 
Wow...

I'd been asking myself a lot of the same questions lately. Glad I read this post. Yeah - I was wondering what costs associated with feeding the .338 LM would be. Also good to know about the TRG and 250 gr. bullets as well.
 
X-fan said:
Despite common opinion rifles that deliver 1500 yard precision accuracy with a 300 grain .338 bullet don't come cheap.

The TRG comes with a twist best suited to 250 grain bullets and (in my opinion) the 300gr bullets is where it is at at very long range.
Once you get way out there every little bit helps and the 300gr SMk offers an advantage in the wind that you can't get from a 250 grain bullet.

That more or less leaves you with something like the AI or a custom built rifle.

Unless you are already a proficient long range shooter your budget values assigned to reloading components are unrealistic and well....Experienced shooters don't generally ask such questions.

You are probably a lot better off with a 7mm or a 300.
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Though you're talking about technical merits and ranges that are out of my league, if you're implying its a 300 g bullet or nothing,, I don't believe you.

The 250g .338 LM has a working range that far exceeds 1000 M, and the skill level of most, and the AI isn't generally seen as a stand alone in the accuracy department, from what I've read.

That this round is not for the financially fainthearted is certainly true. The contention that the AI has an advantage over a TRG because of twist rate is technically correct but lacking in a practical sense I dare say. Practicalities would be better addressed by high end glass at these ranges IMHO. Again, we're talking $$.
 
The most affordable solution might be a .338 Ultra on a M-700 platform. The cost of brass is the greatest obstacle when considering the .338 Lapua, and the Ultra produces similar performance at lower cost. If it was me, I would order a Kreiger fast twist .338 heavy contour barrel, have it chambered in .338 Ultra, and spin it onto donor M-700 receiver with a magnum bolt face and have the thing bedded to the factory M-700 stock with the addition of a high tech recoil pad. This poor man's custom job solves the issues related to ammo cost, rifle cost, and the limitations of being restricted to light for caliber bullets.
 
+1 for HKMark23,
300gr bullet is not FAR BETTER then the 250grainer, i have shoot my TRG few time to 1500m and most of the time at 1000m with excellent result, i'am using blackhills 250gr, consider also that, i'am far from being a good shooter as some are on this board !!!

Like it's been said, the AI is having a better twist rate for the heavier 300gr but it is not more accurate then the TRG, Zak Smith have done some test, here is the link !!!
http://demigodllc.com/articles/military-338-lapua-rifles-trg42-awsm/
 
when the guys at russel told me 150 bucks for brass I quickly rethought how bad i really needed a lapua. 300 win mag has been floating my boat all right eventually ill buy a lapua, after i dont require a second mortage to feed the beast ;)
 
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Reloading 338LM is not as expensive as many think if you shop around for components.

- 100 x 338LM Lapua Brass for $280 or $2.80 per brass - assuming 10 reloads (I have 6 on the first batch) = $0.28 per shot
- 100 x 300gn Lapua Scenar for $86 = $0.86 per shot
- Large Rifle Mag Primers for $4 = $0.04 per shot
- Powder (I use H US869, RL25 and VVN560). The highest volume powder is US869 at 106gns. 7000gn per lb /106gn = 66 shots per lb. $38 per lb / 66shots = $0.58 per shot.

Brass+bullet+primer+powder is costing me $1.76 per shot plus cost of dies (difficult to amortize).

Once you have tuned the load to your rifle, reloading this round becomes very attractive compared with the $180 per box of 20 ($9 per shot) asking price at the local gun store.
 
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