Alberta hunters wild last day
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"How about you have to serve a five year apprenticeship hunting with a bow before they let you out there with a rifle. Hell I hunted for years as a kid under the watchful eye of my dad and uncle. They made sure I learned self control and safety or I got a smack upside the head."
Sure thing Comrade
Sure thing Comrade
A five year apprenticeship would only help responsible people and people who are careless are not responsible. I have taken a lot of new hunters out with me the past few years and none of these hunters i took out on a whim. People need to be shown how to use firearms safely but if they have no sense of responsibilty it doesn't matter what you show them. Stricter gun laws are not the answer either because irresponsible people don't follow laws. The only real solution is to punish those who are reckless with jailtime and set a example that people will be held responsible for their actions.
Brutus
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One would quickly weed out those with impatient personality traits.
maybe they should make a 5 year apprenticeship before you can own guns then.... you can go out with a licensed guy and shoot for 5 years but you cant buy or possess any???
If you make a 5 year apprenticeship that would punish all of the new hunters that dont shoot anyone.... I guess you fellows are ok with punishing the masses because of a few bad apples... I have read a few things from certain gun control people that feel the exact same way
If you make a 5 year apprenticeship that would punish all of the new hunters that dont shoot anyone.... I guess you fellows are ok with punishing the masses because of a few bad apples... I have read a few things from certain gun control people that feel the exact same way
Brutus
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
You have a good point loogie.............this is a dangerous game we are playing so to speak.
Edit: I suspect there is no right answer other than each of us acting responsibly. Regardless of method of harvest.....
Cheers!
Edit: I suspect there is no right answer other than each of us acting responsibly. Regardless of method of harvest.....
Cheers!
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I'd rather wear blaze orange than a body bag! Better education, enforcement of the laws and harsher punishments for not following the law is part of the answer and a way forward. Unfortunately, nothing will protect people from stupidity.
My thoughts exactly....
Is it really that much of an inconvenience to wear blaze orange?
Like someone said....easier than wearing a body bag.
If you were hunting on a cutline/cutblock a hunter wearing camo would be VERY hard to spot at 500-600 yards if he wasn't skylined. IF he is wearing blaze orange he sticks out like a sore thumb.
If I lived in Alberta I would still wear at least an Orange vest($10 from Walmart) and Orange hat($10 from Walmart).
You cannot protect against idiots....they will have to be weeded out by natural selection, but wearing Orange makes you more visible and lets other hunters in the area KNOW where your at.
I think we need to start a online petition to make sure Alberta brings in some legislation to wear some amount of Blaze Orange during hunting season.
Our hunter education needs to be longer and more in depth with a greater emphasis on firearms handling. I don't like a lot of European hunting laws but I do like the ones that force new hunters to apprentice AND demonstrate marksmanship AND game handling skills.
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- Eastern Edge of the Foothills
These type of incidents [they are not accidents!] are not limited to ALBERTA, and they are not limited CITY FOLK! There are many, many, many, jerks from farms or small towns who have no clue what firearms safety is. They've been around firearms most of their lives, but because of that they've picked a lot of bad habits and look at a rifle with as much respect as they do a shovel. Ignorant people can come from anywhere, not just cities. Saying people from cities don't belong outdoors enjoying hunting is just plain ignorant and wrong. I've enjoyed hunting all my life, and though I didn't grow up in a city, I live in one now. That doesn't make me an unsafe hunter. That doesn't mean I don't get permission. From what I've seen, the jackasses are the ones from rural locations. Not everyone, though.
I have been hunting my whole life and to my knowledge have NEVER been scoped as of yet??
IF I was...this is what I would do.
I would try to find out the person's name, vehicle plate etc.
Then I would file a complaint at local RCMP office.
At least then there is a record of a complaint being filed, they HAVE to investigate.
At the very least the other guy will have to lie his way out of it....and it will probably deter him from ever doing it again.
Assaulting the hunter or firing at him will only land YOU in front of a judge as the defendant.
IF I was...this is what I would do.
I would try to find out the person's name, vehicle plate etc.
Then I would file a complaint at local RCMP office.
At least then there is a record of a complaint being filed, they HAVE to investigate.
At the very least the other guy will have to lie his way out of it....and it will probably deter him from ever doing it again.
Assaulting the hunter or firing at him will only land YOU in front of a judge as the defendant.
thank you!!!
You are right of course. However, in the areas that are close to cities (say within a hour to a hour and a half drive) the ratio of city hunters to local hunters is very high. If in a given area 100 hunters are from the city and another 20 of them are from the local area and let's say that only 10% of both groups are the arseholes we are talking about, then that means that there are 10 arseholes from the city and only 2 from the local area.
Percentage wise arsehole hunters likely have the same ratio everywhere.
Local guys frequently know the area though and those arseholes are less likely to be caught.
A city hunter hitting the area for the one time that year may also figure he can get away with something since he won't be back there until the next year. A local has to live there and can be tracked down easier. We do have a couple of locals that are well known for being complete criminals but never get caught. Most of the complaints I'm hearing about and the violations I'm seeing are being committed by "out of towners" though.
