150gr CoreLokts for moose?

[quackquackbang]

My buddie just killed a 8 point bull moose this past weekend with his 270 using 150gr core lokts! 1 shot the moose just went down at about 350yards!! So yes if u can put it in the vitals it will work fine!!

 

[todbartell]

As it turns out, my brother headed out earlier today and he's going to zero my rifle in with the 180's

I'd rather hunt with 150gr cor lokts in my rifle that I sighted in and have confidence in bullet placement, than 180gr my buddy sighted in for me. always sight in your own rifle. my .02$

 

[pricedo]

^ You realize the sectional density of the 150gr .277 cal is totally superior to the 150gr .308 cal, right?

The conventional lead core 150gr .30 cal bullet is marginal, except on perfect broadside shots.
Put a bonded bullet like a Hornady IB, Nosler Accubond or Barnes TSX in there and then it's probably fine even on shoulder shots.

Put a bonded bullet like a Hornady IB, Nosler Accubond or Barnes TSX in there and then it's probably fine even on shoulder shots.

I've heard all that sectional density & super-duper secret jacket to core bonding process malarky & mumbo jumbo before & think it is a lot of salesmanship BS & has more to do with marketing than putting meat in the freezer.

Those premium cartridges for $60+ a box I think are designed more for killing the shooter's wallet than killing game.

I've handloaded more boxes of ammo for just about every rifle & handgun caliber going over the years than I'd care to count.

The older I get & the more hunting time I have behind me than ahead of me the more I think the Remington Core-Lokt factory ammo is just as good as, if not better than, anything else for $19 a box (1/3 the money!!) as long as you place the shot correctly.

I don't know what it is with Big Green's Core-Lokt factory ammo but I find it more accurate than handloads in several of my rifles. Their 150 grain Core-Lokt PSP factory cartridges print sub-MOA groups in my Browning BLR in .308 Win. & my Savage Model 116 in .30-06 Sprng.

 

[Andrzej]

Stefan asked about gun sighted for 150 Coreloks and using 180 Coreloks what would be the difference of POI.
My advice would be to shoot at the target at 100 yards to see where is POI.
But if you don't ...
you should be fine as 180 will not differ more than 2" at 100 yards so 4" at your max distance of 200 y and moose will not see the difference.

You mention that your brother will sight it with 180 gr before hunt, I'm glad to hear this.
Good luck
Andrew

 

[pricedo]

Stefan asked about gun sighted for 150 Coreloks and using 180 Coreloks what would be the difference of POI.
My advice would be to shoot at the target at 100 yards to see where is POI.
But if you don't ...
you should be fine as 180 will not differ more than 2" at 100 yards so 4" at your max distance of 200 y and moose will not see the difference.

You mention that your brother will sight it with 180 gr before hunt, I'm glad to hear this.
Good luck
Andrew

Download the program Remington Shoot v3.2 FREE from the Remington website and you can directly compare the ballistics of any Remington factory ammo.

URL provided below:

http://www.remington.com/products/ammunition/ballistics/remington_shoot_ballistics_software.asp

It's Sesame Street Simple & installs in a jiffy.

The program will even show you superimposed graphs of the trajectories, velocity, energy, bullet drop, bullet path, etc. at various ranges for the 150 & 180 grain Core-Lokt bullets.

 

[Mount Sweetness]

Agree with Tod, I wouldn't be hunting with a gun my buddy sighted in....

 

[fishx]

shoot a moose in the head with a 22 long, guess what.. dead moose.

 

[fishx]

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Lapua naturalis..

Great round.

 

[Camp Cook]

Bonded core technology is only needed or an issue when one is shooting high velocity rounds that is why the 270 Weatherby never got the following it deserves there were major issue with bullets coming apart on impact.

Now if all one loaded were standard velocity rounds going with the cost savings with a bullet like a corelok or interlok makes a lot of sense I actually buy bulk 30 cal 150gr coreloks and use them in my 308Bellm and 30-06 rifles.

Shot this deer last year with the 150gr Corelok bullets shot was 205 - 210 yards bullet entered left front of the chest took out both lungs, liver and when it exited out the deers right chest it hit and broke the leg bone.

I'd use them on moose if that was all I had but would prefer a heavier bullet.

 

[Boomer]

My buddie just killed a 8 point bull moose this past weekend with his 270 using 150gr core lokts! 1 shot the moose just went down at about 350yards!! So yes if u can put it in the vitals it will work fine!!

A 150 gr .270 is a different critter than is a 150 gr .308. Still, I wouldn't pass up a mose hunting trip because all I had was 150s loaded in my .308. Like others have said, stay out of the shoulder and the 150 gr Coreloks will be fine.

 

[Boomer]

Funny thing 30 years ago there was no such thing as the "Premium Bullits" but people still shot and killed moose with no less problems than today and with less performing calibres than the 308 win. I'm sure some here would say your wasteing your time using a 308 as you need at least a 300 mag to make a clean kill.........LMAO

Actually 30 years ago was when the premium bullet thing really got started. Both the Barnes Original with it's heavy pure copper jacket and pure lead core under the name of Colorado Custom Bullets and the Nosler Partition had been around since the 1940s. Speer and others began to experiment with bonded core bullets about 30 years ago. In North America, mono-metal bullets first showed up in 1979 and X bullets a bit later in 1985.

Still, I get your point. Corelokts have always worked well on big game when fired from mild cartridges, and they will continue to do so today. Still, I'd keep a .308/150 out of a moose's shoulder.

 

[pricedo]

A 150 gr .270 is a different critter than is a 150 gr .308. Still, I wouldn't pass up a mose hunting trip because all I had was 150s loaded in my .308. Like others have said, stay out of the shoulder and the 150 gr Coreloks will be fine.

The big game targeted by the Premium cartridge/bullet manufacturers are the stupider, gimmick gullible homo sapiens.

Like others have said, stay out of the shoulder and the 150 gr Coreloks will be fine.

I'll be keeping manufacturers & resellers out of my wallet by sticking with Core-Lokts............they get the job done for 1/3 -1/2 the money........and a lot of the time are much more accurate.

Those friggin super-expensive composite core & X bullet wallet busters won't stay inside a 4" circle in several of my rifles where Remington Core-Lokt factory ammo gives me consistent sub-MOA groups........I don't believe all the premium bullet hype I read but I do believe what I see on the target paper & what's on the ground under my skinning knife after I pull the trigger.

 

[pricedo]

Thanks for all of the replies guys. I should have mentioned that I would be taking any shots over 200yds, even that seems long to me ( I'm more of a bush skulker). As it turns out, my brother headed out earlier today and he's going to zero my rifle in with the 180's. Thanks again for the replies.


Cheers,

Stef

I wish all the hunters from other gangs that hunt in my WMU competing for the same deer would let me sight their rifles in for them.

Have somebody else sight my rifle(s) in ...............bin there dun that ONCE.........checked the rifle out after I missed a Carnation Evaporated milk can 3 times @ 50 yds. and it was shooting 8" high & 6" to the left @ 100 yds.

I won't take a rifle to the bush that I haven't sighted in MYSELF.

 

[Jordan Smith]

You must have some serious problems with your handloading techniques or gear if you can't produce ammo that shoots under 4" groups with premium bullets.

I laugh whenever you say that these premiums are "super-expensive" and "wallet busters". I fired 4 Barnes TSX bullets this year, 1 TTSX, and a LOT of Core-lokts and Sierra GK's. After I shoot some targets and find out that the Barnes bullets hit to the same POI as the cheaper GK's and CL's, guess what? I shoot the cheap bullets all year at targets, gophers, badgers, coyotes, etc, and use the TSX/TTSX bullets for big game hunting, which is usually around 7 shots per year. So if I spent $1 per bullet, and a CL would have cost me $0.25 per bullet, then I spent a grand total of $5.25 more by using Barnes bullets for hunting than I would have if I had used CL's.

Sure, when you first develop the load you may spend up to $50 (probably less) to get the premium load dialed in and figured out, but after that you'll only spend $10 or less per year to use those bullets for hunting. If you can't afford a one time fee of $50, and then $10 a year after that, then I don't know how you manage to pay for gasoline for your vehicle to take you to your favorite hunting spots.

 

[t-star]

i remember seeing a study years ago of all the powders,etc at the time- the winning formula was the 308/180 over 43 grains of ww748- that's what i've always used, and no premium bullets either- speer hot cors or remmy bulk- that was back in the early 70's- see no reason to change- if anything , i was a little dissappointed that the m14et al wouldn't take my favorite load- well, it can, but it beats the s out of it- so now i have to do 2 loadings- 1 for the m14s, and the other for savage and remmy semi- it/s the savage 99 that's in my scabbard, loaded with 308/180s

 

[pricedo]

http://www.lapua.com/index.php?id=874

Lapua naturalis..

Great round.

For the price of a few boxes of that imported Norma & Lapua ammo you could probably buy a beef steer carcass from a farmer & wouldn't need to hunt.

You won't be getting them things for $19 a box........that's for sure !......if you can even find them at all..........on the other hand every Crappy Tire & Walmart has Core-Lokts...........& dirt cheap!

 

[dragoon7214]

If you look back to the 1960's when Remington first came out with Core-Lokts and Winchester came out with Power Points, they were advertised as premium hunting bullets, a step up from the "plain" cup and core bullets of the day. They dropped game from deer to moose with no problems for years, but now everyone needs bullets that cost 3 to 4 times as much just to shoot whitetail does. Most of the deer I shot 20 years ago were with Imperial soft points and they worked just fine. For the price I would say that Core Lokts are a very good hunting bullet, whether in factory ammo, or as bulk bullets, although from the latest Wholesale Sports catalog they aren't as economical as they used to be.

As far as having someone else sight in you rifle, or going by factory ballistic charts to do the work, I personally wouldn't shoot at game with a rifle that I hadn't sighted myself and put at least 25 rounds (and usually more than that) down the tube, so I know where it's going to hit at the ranges I plan on hunting at. Just my .02

 

[pricedo]

If you look back to the 1960 when Remington first came out with Core-Lokts and Winchester came out with the Power Points, they were advertised as premium hunting bullets, a step up from the "plain" cup and core bullets of the day. They dropped game from deer to moose with no problems for years, but now everyone needs bullets that costs 3 to 4 times as much just to shoot whitetail does. Most of the first deer I shot were with Imperial soft points and they worked just fine. For the price Iw ould say that Core Lokts are a very good hunting bullet, whether in factory ammo, or as bulk bullets, although from the latest Wholesale Sports catalog they aren't as economical as they used to be.

As far as having someone else sight in you rifle, or going by factory ballistic charts to do the work, I personally wouldn't shoot at game with a rifle that I hadn't sighted myself and put at least 25 rounds ( and usually more than that) down the tube, so I know where it's going to hit at the ranges I plan on hunting at. Just my .02

Most of the first deer I shot were with Imperial soft points and they worked just fine.

Still have a box or two of Imperial "Sabre Tips" in the cupboard. I'd hunt with them today if they weren't almost a collector's item. The rounds that are missing from the boxes are almost one for one in dead moose & deer.

Dad shot oodles of deer with a .32 Rim fire Stevens rifle & the moose gun for years was a .38-55 until he got the Model 70 in .300 H&H Mag. in the early 1960's which I believe was just for show. His buddies & my uncles used to call it the "elephant gun".

That old .38-55 never let him down & now you need to keep 150 grain Core-Lokts with 3 times the muzzle energy out of the shoulders.........give me a fcuken break !!

Iw ould say that Core Lokts are a very good hunting bullet, whether in factory ammo, or as bulk bullets, although from the latest Wholesale Sports catalog they aren't as economical as they used to be.

Why hand load at all when you can get accurate factory loaded ammo for $19 a box???......and if there's a Crappy Tire or a Walmart around you'll never run out.

 

[TheTooner]

I hand load because I can't get accurate factory ammo for $19 a box. Remington Corelokt 180g (.303British in my case) cost $30/box20 at my local C.Tire, which doesn't seem like a cheap bullet to me. I've paid that when I haven't had time to make my own (usually 174g round nose Hornady) and it certainly works well enough and didn't need to change my zero. Although I believe more modern "premium" bullet designs work better, I don't buy them because I don't need them.

 

[pricedo]

I hand load because I can't get accurate factory ammo for $19 a box. Remington Corelokt 180g (.303British in my case) cost $30/box20 at my local C.Tire, which doesn't seem like a cheap bullet to me. I've paid that when I haven't had time to make my own (usually 174g round nose Hornady) and it certainly works well enough and didn't need to change my zero. Although I believe more modern "premium" bullet designs work better, I don't buy them because I don't need them.

Although I believe more modern "premium" bullet designs work better, I don't buy them because I don't need them.

Based on the rock solid theory that you can't get DEADER than DEAD.

Every moose & deer I've shot with a Winchester Power Point or a Remington Core-Lokt bullet was quite dead.

You can usually tell if they're dead when you start gutting them with you hunting knife.....deer & moose that are still alive protest very vigorously to the gutting process.