Chatham Kent Police looking for rifle donations

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While I am sure they mean well about this, it does seem rather rude to ask for donations of firearms from a community of law abiding citizens that have been heavily harrased and scapegoated by UK police, politicans and the media.
Had you encouraged legal and responsible firearm ownership, perhaps finding fine examples of these rifles would not be a problem.

By the way the Lee-Enfield No. 4 is still issued by the Canadian Military to our Canadian Rangers, who patrol the North on dog sled and ski-doo. A fine rifle and one to proud. Almost every gun owning household in Canada has a .303 rifle, either a SMLE, No.4, P17 or a ross rifle. Most have been sportized, but mine is still as issued in 1942

From their link http://www.kent.net/wallaceburg-museum/enfield.html

Wallaceburg is the home of the first Lee-Enfield Rifle ever made ... the river front echoed the very first test shot of this repeater rifle as it whistled clear across the river and into an oak tree. A plaque now marks this 1878 event and the museum houses this important military artifact.
This world famous forebearer of the modern repeater rifle was invented by James Paris Lee, a native of Hawick, Rouxburgh, Scotland. He was born on August 28, 1804, the son of a skilled jeweller. When the family first immigrated to Canada, they lived in Galt, but later moved to Chatham, where Lee's father opened a jeweller's shop. At age 7, James got a job in this shop and first started to experiment with firearms, and in 1850 James opened his shop. By 1862, he had patented his first rifle -- a single shot, breech loading rifle. The U.S. War Department ordered 1000 of these, but misunderstanding about the calibre led to cancellation of the order. Lee claimed damages to the government, but was forced to close his shop.

It was in 1878, when James made his greatest contribution. He invented a rifle with a box magazine capable of firing 30 shots per minute. The rifle was perfected in Wallaceburg on a site opposite the municipal Building. The gun was tested successfully in Wallaceburg. Bullets were fired from the Lee Brothers Foundry across the Sydenham river into an oak tree hundreds of yards away.

Ten thousand of these rifles were sold to the U.S. Navy and they also became the standard issue for the British Army for over 60 years. The Patent rights were purchased by England for 50,000 pounds plus 50 cents for each magazine. The rifle was produced in Enfield, England in 1888, thus the "Lee Enfield" name.

The rifle on display is the original prototype and the desk on display was used to store the tools that helped construct the Lee Rifle. A plaque commemorating the rifle was erected on July 2, 1975 in Civic Park.
 
Let them dig through the piles of shredded wood and metal of the confiscated or surrendered firearms, and see if they can't cobble a few together.

Or maybe they could purchase some of the overpriced dewats I've seen for sale in England.

I wouldn't let them even get a whiff of the gun oil on my Enfields.:mad:
 
Colin said:
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While I am sure they mean well about this, it does seem rather rude to ask for donations of firearms from a community of law abiding citizens that have been heavily harrased and scapegoated by UK police, politicans and the media.
Had you encouraged legal and responsible firearm ownership, perhaps finding fine examples of these rifles would not be a problem.
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This is Ontario we're talking about, not the UK. It does still have an ironic twist to it though.
 
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The irony of the police asking civilians for firearms is delightful. The purpose is honourable, but the request is a little like a hockey referee asking players to pass him the puck. The referee can't handle the puck because he is not a player. The police shouldn't be asking the public to surrender live firearms because of the federal Firearms Act. Such is the antagonism built into the Firearms Act. It wasn't always so, but it is today.

Firearms held by the authorities must be registered, stored properly (and at a higher standard of theft prevention than most civiian firearms), reported regularly to the Firearms Centre and are almost never returned to the public. Any citizen who takes their offer is also potentially exposing themselves to unnecessary legal scrutiny if they lack the appropriate licenses.
 
You guys are missing the point entirely.

This is like one of those "Lotto Stings" in the US - people with outstanding warrants have their names announced as lotto or trip package winners and when they show up the cops bag their a$$es...

In this case community minded individual steps forward to do the honorable thing and BAM - no rifle and a flurry of "Weapons Related Charges" headlines to throw up in the papers.

They're crafty....
 
They should be asking the Socialist F**ks to donate 'em. Nearly all, if not all, CF issue No. 4's have been destroyed.
"...Ontario is kind of like UK..." Um, no.
 
I find it more interesting this gun was created in my backyard, it was always my belief the gun was patented in Enfield England.
I guess I will have to visit the Wallaceburg District Museum.
This area is surrounded by farming lands I would bet by the weekend there will be 50 old farmers giving up there Enfield to the Police and in turn the guns will be welded, because we couldn't possibly have a firearm with a working action at a funeral or ceramony.
 
1GLOCKAHOLIC said:
I find it more interesting this gun was created in my backyard, it was always my belief the gun was patented in Enfield England.
I guess I will have to visit the Wallaceburg District Museum.
This area is surrounded by farming lands I would bet by the weekend there will be 50 old farmers giving up there Enfield to the Police and in turn the guns will be welded, because we couldn't possibly have a firearm with a working action at a funeral or ceramony.[/QUOTE]

Gun salutes at funerals are working firearms. Know that, been there, done that. ;)
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1GLOCKAHOLIC said:
I find it more interesting this gun was created in my backyard, it was always my belief the gun was patented in Enfield England.
I guess I will have to visit the Wallaceburg District Museum.
This area is surrounded by farming lands I would bet by the weekend there will be 50 old farmers giving up there Enfield to the Police and in turn the guns will be welded, because we couldn't possibly have a firearm with a working action at a funeral or ceramony.
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Mr. Garand was a canuck :), too! :canadaFlag:
 
Gee, if they sold off the firearms that were turned in during amnesties instead of just chopping them up, they might have money to go out and buy what they wanted :eek:. I appreciate why they want them, but I would never donate a rifle to the police after what our governments have put us through.
 
They should use the Drug money they seize in busts....You know, those busts they have photos or type in the newspapers almost weekly....Let the criminals money buy the guns for the cops....
 
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