Question for 9mm shooters in IPSC open division
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You spelled his name wrong, its "Eric Grauffel"
That is so stupid to say. Probably the dumbest thing I have read on this site.
That's great, but don't say that no one is serious. Serious is measured on different levels. I am serious about beating my PB every time I go out.
Just because every body doesn't aim to be the world champion every time they go out doesn't mean they aren't serious about it.
It is "IPSIK'S" comments that keep newb's from joining action shooting. If you were a newb and read his comments what kind of impression would you get.
I think it is awsome that he is that good. It is a testament to his dedication.
I suppose that depends on how "serious" a competitor your are. In my view, shooting minor in open is not a problem until you start missing alpha. A "serious" competitor would shoot major only because of the potential (inevitable) point loss. I am thinking of going open minor next year because I shoot for fun. So I guess I am not a "serious" competitor. To each his own.
I think there's a big difference between being a serious competitor and taking your competitions seriously. I take my competitions seriously, but I am not really a serious competitor.
Serious competitors would be those that are striving to be the absolute best that they can be, building on some natural ability. Dry firing on a daily basis, cross training to improve in those areas that are physically required, going to the range several times a week with a regimented practice plan, traveling to many major matches to measure up against other shooters, attend training sessions from more experienced people. These are all things I would love to do on a regular basis, but don't have the time and/or money to do regularly.
However, that doesn't mean I don't approach competitions with a serious attitude. That means no serious hard core drinking at a match, trying to get decent amounts of sleep. Checking all my gear many times over, cleaning the gun every day. There is time for fun and socializing, but your primary point in being there is to shoot.
In reality, I'm not serious because I haven't done everything I can to do the absolute best that I can do. However, I try to be serious and do the best with what I got. That may be a fine distinction, but (I think) I understand what IPSIK is trying to say.
Serious competitors would be those that are striving to be the absolute best that they can be, building on some natural ability. Dry firing on a daily basis, cross training to improve in those areas that are physically required, going to the range several times a week with a regimented practice plan, traveling to many major matches to measure up against other shooters, attend training sessions from more experienced people. These are all things I would love to do on a regular basis, but don't have the time and/or money to do regularly.
However, that doesn't mean I don't approach competitions with a serious attitude. That means no serious hard core drinking at a match, trying to get decent amounts of sleep. Checking all my gear many times over, cleaning the gun every day. There is time for fun and socializing, but your primary point in being there is to shoot.
In reality, I'm not serious because I haven't done everything I can to do the absolute best that I can do. However, I try to be serious and do the best with what I got. That may be a fine distinction, but (I think) I understand what IPSIK is trying to say.
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Ah...you lost me there...
Back to the original question, I think you should consider which platform you are considering first. If its a small frame Tanfoglio, or CZ, maybe a Glock- I will go out on a limb here and say that 9mm in those guns should give you no issues as they were designed around the 9mm round. A hi-Cap 1911, well that's another issue, if you have a gunsmith that knows how to set it up properly, or you yourself know what you're doing in regards to tuning then yes it is feasible. Large frame Tanfoglio does have feeding issues, relliot explained this clearly with his own experience. Sure brass can be cheap and plentiful, but if your gun doesn't work, cheap brass doesn't mean anything. I shoot 9mm and 9x21, but in guns that are true 9mm guns and I have no issues. If I ever decided to switch to a hi-Cap 1911 or Large frame Tanfoglio I would directly go with Supercomp. I would rather just shoot than mess with trying to get something to work.
In fact I still have mine in 9X21. It always ran fine, but if you compare the magazines of one of these to 2011 mags, you'll see the difference immediately. The Caspian mags actually look more like 9mm mags.
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Can A Shadow turn into an Open gun without issue? I have two myself and I can spare one out to transform.
Little search on google found those:
http://czechpistols82792.yuku.com/topic/16457/t/SPO1-Open-Class.html
http://www.brianenos.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=7502
http://ipsc.invisionzone.com/index.php?showtopic=9738
http://picasaweb.google.com/altuna.denis/PHOTOPISTOLETS?pli=1&gsessionid=uodnR-bu2q2kCXqagEMRFg#
Rumor has it that there is a new CZ open gun in the works, but they say it will be built on "CZ 75 Tactical Sport" frame.
No, I doubt it very much. I thought of that also when I decided to go back into Open, but the work and expense involved in retrofitting, if it could even be done, would be way too prohibitive.
Like I said; when you break it down the cost difference between 9mm major and .38 Supercomp comes out to around 300 bucks a year (for me). For that kind of money I'd prefer to spend my time shooting rather than screwing around trying to reinvent the wheel.
I believe in the US a few have made Shadow's into Open guns, Angus Hobdell is using one I believe for an "open" steel gun as we speak. CZ custom shop will build them too, but I believe there is a warranty issue if you start to shoot major PF ammo thru them. If you could get a longer CZ barrel, most gunsmiths could build a comp, add a dot and a single action trigger and there you go. I think they would work fine.
