How good will my rifle shoot at 1078 yards...
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Granted these are 10 shot groups however I am not certain it was actually established the round count used to claim routine 3" groupings at 1078 yards...
This list does not contain a single group that makes it to 3" even and represents the sum total of a whole seasons worth of shooting by some of the most serious LR BR shooters in the world..
http://www.pa1000yard.com/results/toplists.php?cls=Heavy+Gun&grsc=Group&topct=100&year=2009
This list does not contain a single group that makes it to 3" even and represents the sum total of a whole seasons worth of shooting by some of the most serious LR BR shooters in the world..
http://www.pa1000yard.com/results/toplists.php?cls=Heavy+Gun&grsc=Group&topct=100&year=2009
Mystic Precision
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http://www.mt1000yd.com/AGGREGATES.html
Some more results at 1000yds.
Please note the 6 target agg that set a world record is 5.251"
Of course, these matches were on any given weekend and weather plays a HUGE role in potential accuracy.
If you look at the PA results, see any 338's being used? Wonder why?
I think some of the lighter classes use 5rds groups????
Jerry
Some more results at 1000yds.
Please note the 6 target agg that set a world record is 5.251"
Of course, these matches were on any given weekend and weather plays a HUGE role in potential accuracy.
If you look at the PA results, see any 338's being used? Wonder why?
I think some of the lighter classes use 5rds groups????
Jerry
Mystic Precision
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Can you even tell what action is on that thing????
He should have just gone with a thumbhole stocked Rem
Jerry
PS won a few rubles and some plastic at local 1000m funshoots with my Stevens so don't knock them till you try them.
In regards to the thread which spawned this one, specifically the "build off" comment, I'd like to say this.......A build off for what? At no time has PGW made any outrageous claims of astonishing accuracy. Sure we have some customers that are posting some nice stuff on the forums, and I'm proud to have such honourable shooters using our product and displaying their pride in what they have acheived. I don't have to defend anything. The fact that our products are carried by men in uniform, under a flag or a badge is testament to the true fact of the level of performance and respect that the PGW rifles have. I don't have to dispute that, nor do I have to defend that, it is a fact. Our rifles get the job done with factory ammo.....If I was to estimate, I'd say fewer than 5% of our rifles see handloads. Of those 5%, I'd say 100% of those shooters are very happy with the performance of their rifle.
I've shot some small groups at long range with my rifles, I've even won a few competitions with them. I have not won every competition, nor has every group been tiny. Now this one time at band camp..........I was on a range down in Yuma Arizona sitting behind a spotting scope, this Ross guy was laying behind a Timberwolf and there were members of the various US SF units all over the place with their own scopes.....the distance was 1000m the wind was 20-25 mph from 8 o'clock IIRC, Ross put on a coarse value on the scope and started to fire. I called out wind corrections of hold left, hold right and when the 5 shot group was done, they called out the group size as recorded by the accoustic target system...."9mm vertical.....125mm horizonal spread".......If ever there was a time to luck into one of those magical small groups this was it. The cool thing was, 4 of the 5 shots landed in the neck of the man silhouette he was shooting at!! We packed up and drove back to Canada high fiving all the way!!!
I've shot some small groups at long range with my rifles, I've even won a few competitions with them. I have not won every competition, nor has every group been tiny. Now this one time at band camp..........I was on a range down in Yuma Arizona sitting behind a spotting scope, this Ross guy was laying behind a Timberwolf and there were members of the various US SF units all over the place with their own scopes.....the distance was 1000m the wind was 20-25 mph from 8 o'clock IIRC, Ross put on a coarse value on the scope and started to fire. I called out wind corrections of hold left, hold right and when the 5 shot group was done, they called out the group size as recorded by the accoustic target system...."9mm vertical.....125mm horizonal spread".......If ever there was a time to luck into one of those magical small groups this was it. The cool thing was, 4 of the 5 shots landed in the neck of the man silhouette he was shooting at!! We packed up and drove back to Canada high fiving all the way!!!
That is a rail gun. Differerent piece of machinery than a rifle shot off bags.
Once it is adjusted to hit paper, the 10 shot string would be shot in less than a minute. probably less than 30 seconds. Wind is less of an issue when shot that fast.
Once it is adjusted to hit paper, the 10 shot string would be shot in less than a minute. probably less than 30 seconds. Wind is less of an issue when shot that fast.
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I've got a decent target rifle, but I'm not confident that I could shoot into a foot on demand at 1000. Although I have done better on many occasions, I have also done worse. To say you can reproduce extrodinary performance with . . . (insert brand name here) on demand, in all conditions and circumstances is to destroy one's credability amongst knowledgable marksmen.
I agree and weather plays a signifacant factor in shooting and the groups sizing
That would be my comment
Well, the debate wasn't who has the most pride in thier product being used by the CF or who made the smallest 1000yd fluke group (altho "9mm vertical.....125mm horizonal spread" @ 1km is insane, lucky or not!)...
The buildoff is to see who can do what Mr. RSP described in the thread subject title better. Epic bragging rights to the winner!
Nothing like competition to bring out the best - beats an online pissing match, IMHO.
The PGW rifles have every attribute of a full-on custom rifle. They use the best barrels in the world, a superlative stock and a very stout action. They are manufactured by a company known for excellence.
I would think that one of these rifles in the hands of a competent shooter could and should win. I'd be nervous shooting against a good shooter using a a Coyote in FTR. In fact I have thought it would be really cool to outfit Canada's FTR team to the world F-Class Championships with Coyotes, as it is a Canadian product.
I have absolutely no trouble believing a PGW rifle has the potential to be as accurate as the best of any other rifle in that caliber. It has everything in one package.
I would think that one of these rifles in the hands of a competent shooter could and should win. I'd be nervous shooting against a good shooter using a a Coyote in FTR. In fact I have thought it would be really cool to outfit Canada's FTR team to the world F-Class Championships with Coyotes, as it is a Canadian product.
I have absolutely no trouble believing a PGW rifle has the potential to be as accurate as the best of any other rifle in that caliber. It has everything in one package.
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