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lol oh i just did! lol
Can i shoot 556 NATO out of my AR-15
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That's not correct.
http://www.canadiangunnutz.com/forum/showthread.php?t=418462
The question "is it safe?" can be answered a number of ways - but the rounds are different (pressure) and so are the chambers.
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um no they are not. pressure is diffrent due to less powder volume in the military 556. less powder less pressure. thats the diffrence. you will not burst a military barrel using civie ammo. military barrels are made strong. if you can chamber it you CAN shoot it.
You should have read the link first. They are.
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im not sure about sami specs but i fix canadian c7 , c9 and every other type of weapon in the cf and i can tell you as someone who has been doing this for 13 years its safe to shoot and that they are interchangable. the chambers may be tigher in some manufactures but other than that they are the same as far as shooting goes.
Yeah, but it's cheap entertainment.
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argueing on the internet is like the special olympics, at the end of the day even if you win gold your still retarded.
well thats my final 2 cents on the subject, ill now let you fine folks continue to get hoses by buying from the big manufactures.
well thats my final 2 cents on the subject, ill now let you fine folks continue to get hoses by buying from the big manufactures.
1) which suggests that you should not have offered an opinion based on ignorance. And you were incredibly wrong with your statement about "less powder less pressure" - you do know that powders can be faster or slower, yes?
2) which has nothing to do with the price of fish in Denmark.
3) "safe" is a complex question (many .223 manufacturers over-build), but "interchangeable" is simply wrong.
Perhaps you'll read the link this time:
http://www.canadiangunnutz.com/forum/showthread.php?t=418462
And some more:
http://www.saami.org/Unsafe_Combinations.cfm
http://www.thegunzone.com/556v223.html
People can and do use 5.56 in .223 chambers. Every time they do, they're subjecting the gun to more pressure than it was designed for. You want to do this? Go ahead - but don't be telling everyone that they're one and the same round, they aren't.
That part is correct, because the .223 is a lower-pressure round.
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Ok, I gotta leave my $.02
Yes, NATO pressures are higher than saami specs, and as mentioned in the .223 vs. 5.56 sticky, the external case dimensions of 5.56 vs. .223 are essentially identical, but the chamber and throat specifications for .223 and 5.56 chambers are not the same. Because of this, I would not advise shooting military 5.56 rounds in a .223 spec chamber!
As noted, a .223 will be fine in a 5.56 chamber, but not the other way around (think of it like shooting a .357 magnum out of a .38 special - not a good idea). I doubt that there would be a catastrophic failiure from shooting 5.56 out of a .223 gun; however, when dealing with guns, it's always better to be safe than sorry! The 5.56 NATO has thicker case walls, but does not have a reduced powder charge as compared to .223 Remington. This is what creates the higher pressures in 5.56 chambers.
All of this aside, from the original post, I think viking just wants to know what his rifle is chambered in.
Yes, NATO pressures are higher than saami specs, and as mentioned in the .223 vs. 5.56 sticky, the external case dimensions of 5.56 vs. .223 are essentially identical, but the chamber and throat specifications for .223 and 5.56 chambers are not the same. Because of this, I would not advise shooting military 5.56 rounds in a .223 spec chamber!
I'll explain it with smiles
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5.56 round in 5.56 chamber
.223 round in 5.56 chamber
.223 round in .223 chamber
5.56 round in .223 chamber
As noted, a .223 will be fine in a 5.56 chamber, but not the other way around (think of it like shooting a .357 magnum out of a .38 special - not a good idea). I doubt that there would be a catastrophic failiure from shooting 5.56 out of a .223 gun; however, when dealing with guns, it's always better to be safe than sorry! The 5.56 NATO has thicker case walls, but does not have a reduced powder charge as compared to .223 Remington. This is what creates the higher pressures in 5.56 chambers.
All of this aside, from the original post, I think viking just wants to know what his rifle is chambered in.
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ACRASHB its safe 1000 and 1000's of rounds have proved otherwise. same same
You're certainly living up to the first part of your screen name.
I've already said that "safe" is a complex matter - read the links, then comment on them. Anything else is merely your opinion, which we've already amply demonstrated to be generally not correct.
Apparently you were wrong on that, too.
Good point. It went sideways in a hurry. I believe someone sells a gauge to tell the difference. Google says: http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=172172 - I have no idea if this is export-controlled or not.
Nope. The external dimensions of the rounds are identical.
Thanks. Did not know that.
