Primers to go up another 20%

[Dogleg]

$ 100.00 bucks is coffee money for most people here.

I enjoy a talk to guys who are right into any other sport/hobbies.
Like say golf. Ask them what they spend of stuff, memberships etc.

The guys at work are into high end snow machines and going to the mountains. The law is all sleds must be hauled by a diesel truck, fully loaded of course. Whatever buddy buys is always the best.
Trucks must be traded before they get broken in

The running joke about G..... and his $15000.00 new sled and T shirt he just got.
They explain the goal is to trade up to a new machine every 2 years.
The old one is no longer good enough or relaiable.
G.....'s last machine was $10000.00.
The joke is the T shirts outlast the sled.

My point is that for this increase to cost a large bore rifle shooter an extra hundred bucks on primers he would be spending somewhere around 5-6,000 dollars on powder and bullets. Add a handful of barrels, or replacement rifles because the required 10,000 shots will take a toll.At that point 100 bucks is a rounding error on the almost criminal amount of fun you're having.
Take a more likely example of 500 shots per year, and the additional expense would amount to about the same as a couple cups of coffee or maybe just one cappa/mocca/latte/nancyboy coffee. I just don't think that will max out the tightest budget.Most rifleshooters won't shoot even 500 rounds in their fondest fantasy.

 

[6mm Shooter]

I talked to a friend of mine that owns a shop down in the US and he said that almost all the prices have held steady and the price on primers has dropped. Whatever you do, do not believe a word that comes out of Darrels mouth. he would say anything to get your money.

I was down in Minot North Dakota the other day and I took a look a Scheels, they are selling Federal Match Primers for $34.00 US.

 

[saskgunowner101]

No offense intended, but it's my guess the problem is people like you. The increase in new reloaders is massive. You can see the newbies in every firearms forum asking "I am thinking of getting into /just got into reloading, how do I...". Every equipment maker seems to be experiencing runs on basic tools like presses and starter kits. All those new reloaders are stocking up on components and have created a run. It isn't much different than the run on ammo in 08-09, it was caused by the very people who were complaining about it.

Not that I blame anyone for getting into reloading. If I hadn't been before, I sure as hell would be now. On the bright side, I fully expect to see almost new (dusty) equipment being sold at garage sales in a couple of years, as it has always been my experience that about 1/3 of all people who get into reloading drop out again before loading more than a handful of shells. If anything, I expect that fraction will go up now.

I'd point my finger at the people that hoard components before blaming all the new guys just starting reloading. Not that there's anything wrong with having a stockpile.

 

[P of PDent]

Time to drag out the ham radio and scuba gear back out. This hobby is getting a little too pricy for average folk like me. I'm set for components for a few years if I don't buy anything, but it's just getting too stupid to keep this up.

Phil. I'm sure you've thought of this already, but..........have you looked into Sellor&Bellot (sp) for primers, or has the whole world gone nuts ??

We do not import ammunition or primers but we deal with every major distributor in Canada. S&B has had limited exposure in Canada in the past but I know a large distributor is trying to set up importation of their ammo and primers if available. The current Canadian distributors are not very happy with how the big US ammunition manufactures are teating them (pricing and availability) so they are always looking elsewhere for product. Phil.

 

[vagrantviking]

We do not import ammunition or primers but we deal with every major distributor in Canada. S&B has had limited exposure in Canada in the past but I know a large distributor is trying to set up importation of their ammo and primers if available. The current Canadian distributors are not very happy with how the big US ammunition manufactures are teating them (pricing and availability) so they are always looking elsewhere for product. Phil.

I really suspect that a lot of our price and supply problems could be eased if we can get more access to guns, ammo, and supplies from other parts of the world besides the US.

Its good to hear that people are working on it.

A homegrown industry like the one that was slowly sold off over the past 30 or 40 years would be even better. Doesn't look likely anytime soon though.

 

[Jordan Smith]

Time for a good Canadian business to be started up that manufactures primers and powder. Good old free-market competition. Wolf primers have started to become popular since CCI and Fed have gotten so expensive. Competition is good.

 

[mmattockx]

Take a more likely example of 500 shots per year, and the additional expense would amount to about the same as a couple cups of coffee or maybe just one cappa/mocca/latte/nancyboy coffee. I just don't think that will max out the tightest budget.Most rifleshooters won't shoot even 500 rounds in their fondest fantasy.

This is very true. Guys complain about primers going up from $25/1000 to maybe $40/1000. While this is a 60% increase, it is still only 1.5 CENTS per round. If I need primers, I will buy them at whatever the going rate is. I am more worried about not having primers than paying more for them.

Mark

 

[Jordan Smith]

That kind of attitude is a great reason for manufacturers to jack up prices on everything.

 

[blacksmithden]

Time for a good Canadian business to be started up that manufactures primers and powder. Good old free-market competition. Wolf primers have started to become popular since CCI and Fed have gotten so expensive. Competition is good.

Still.....Wolf is a U.S. company. The real problem with setting up a Canadian company is money. Safety regs in this country would make it nearly impossible to get that first single lowly primer out the door without it costing 10X the price of existing U.S. products. The other thing I'm sure of is that the U.S. would come up with SOME B.S. excuse to keep a Canadian company from selling their product in the U.S.

I hate to send money out of the country, but why the heck isn't somebody bringing in Chinese made primers and other components ??? It's not like they don't make ammo over there. Even if the quality is a bit shabby, they would still be fine for plinking around the range.

 

[mmattockx]

That kind of attitude is a great reason for manufacturers to jack up prices on everything.

When supplies are as uncertain as they are right now, having primers is more important to me than getting them as cheap as 3-4 years ago. If some suppliers choose to price gouge now while things are tight, I will remember that and avoid patronizing them when things loosen up again. At the moment, the suppliers have the upper hand. That will not last forever.

Mark

 

[Fassteel]

When supplies are as uncertain as they are right now, having primers is more important to me than getting them as cheap as 3-4 years ago. If some suppliers choose to price gouge now while things are tight, I will remember that and avoid patronizing them when things loosen up again. At the moment, the suppliers have the upper hand. That will not last forever.

Mark

Since when,have suppliers not had the upper hand? Never as far as I know, they will always have the upper hand.
Stuff cost what it costs. Even if a fellow is brand new to reloading and has to go out and purchase all of his supplies at current pricing levels, he is still far better off than buying factory ammunition. As long as brass isn't $60.00 a bag and powder isn't $60.00 a pound. There are places in this country where folks pay $48.00 a pound for powder. FS

 

[Red devil]

Components

Will be interesting to see what happens when WSS opens in Regina..