Buying rifle scopes 'online' from the U.S.
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I'd recommend talking to Jon at www.theopticzone.com. He'll do the export paperwork free of charge, so long as you can wait 3-4 weeks. He has some of the best prices, and it blows away the pricing up here. In fact, a lot of the time he has sales on , 5-7% off his already posted prices. He does charge a small fee for international shipments, along the line of 2-3%. But, he ships via US post, so, you don't get bent over on brokerage.
I don't know what everyone on here gets worked up about. Even Opticsplanet says they'll do the export paperwork in order to ship to canada so long as you indicate that's what you want.
Another online shop to check out is www.brunoshooters.com. They clearly indicate they'll do the paperwork to ship to you as well. They charge a 4% fee to do the paperwork and ship. They use UPS though, which means you'll get dinged for an extra $35 in brokerage fees. Still, if you're saving $300-400 on a Leupold who cares.
I don't know what everyone on here gets worked up about. Even Opticsplanet says they'll do the export paperwork in order to ship to canada so long as you indicate that's what you want.
Another online shop to check out is www.brunoshooters.com. They clearly indicate they'll do the paperwork to ship to you as well. They charge a 4% fee to do the paperwork and ship. They use UPS though, which means you'll get dinged for an extra $35 in brokerage fees. Still, if you're saving $300-400 on a Leupold who cares.
I have heard that if you have troubles with Leupolds purchased in the USA that the Korth Group will not work on them. As these products have serial numbers it is easy to find out where it was purchased. FS
ITAR (international trafice in arms regs) includes riflescopes defined as;
(e) Riflescopes manufactured to military specifications and specifically designed or modified components therefor.
does anyone know of any definite information, that prevents the export of an obviously sporting use riflescope?
(e) Riflescopes manufactured to military specifications and specifically designed or modified components therefor.
does anyone know of any definite information, that prevents the export of an obviously sporting use riflescope?
One of my friends (BTW a fellow CGN'r) has a scope currently held up at the border right now. It's been well over a month at the border. He doesn't know if he'll ever see it?
BTW it's a Leupold.
I believe it was an Ebay purchase?
BTW it's a Leupold.
I believe it was an Ebay purchase?
I don't get what point you are trying to make.
The point I am trying to make, is that it is 'common knowledge' around here, that it is not legal to export riflescope without license/permit from the US.
The definitions I have found from the ITAR website, only mentions Riflescopes manufactured to military specifications and specifically designed or modified components therefor.
How that gets interpreted by CBSA is a separate issue, but if I am wrong or missed something from ITAR, Dept of Commerce, of ATF, someone please point it out.
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Its far more complicated than you can imagine. For example, you can export Trijicon ACOGs out of the US , but only certain models. They will not allow export of TA-11 with Horseshoe and Crosshair, but you can import Donut , Chevron, Triangle .
Also, remember that when applying for ITAR export permit, it is non refundable. So if they say no, too bad. You still pay for the permit
Also, remember that when applying for ITAR export permit, it is non refundable. So if they say no, too bad. You still pay for the permit
Have you confirmed this? I don't see how the Korth Group could deny a warranty claim if the rifle scope was legally purchased/exported to Canada. Sure they can refuse to work on it in principle (as it wasn't distributed through them), but Leupolds have a warranty that should ensure service no matter what provided the serial number is authentic.
US direct imported scopes would still have full warranty but you may be required to send it to the factory in Beaverton Oregon for service/warranty with the requisite paper work. Phil.
I'm new and this might be a dumb question but could I get the scope shipped to a place in US and drive down pick it up and take it back to canada. I would tell the Canadian (the only boarder guys I would have to talk to on the way back) boarder guys that I have it and pay the taxes on it but I don't see what they would care about a scope.
ITAR § 121.1 General. The United States Munitions List....
just before: Category II—Guns and Armament:
Note: This coverage by the U.S. Munitions List in paragraphs (a) through (i) of this category excludes any non-combat shotgun with a barrel length of 18 inches or longer, BB, pellet, and muzzle loading (black powder) firearms. This category does not cover riflescopes and sighting devices that are not manufactured to military specifications. It also excludes accessories and attachments (e.g., belts, slings, after market rubber grips, cleaning kits) for firearms that do not enhance the usefulness, effectiveness, or capabilities of the firearm, components and parts. The Department of Commerce regulates the export of such items. See the Export Administration Regulations (15 CFR parts 730–799). In addition, license exemptions for the items in this category are available in various parts of this subchapter (e.g. §§123.17, 123.18 and 125.4).
just before: Category II—Guns and Armament:
Note: This coverage by the U.S. Munitions List in paragraphs (a) through (i) of this category excludes any non-combat shotgun with a barrel length of 18 inches or longer, BB, pellet, and muzzle loading (black powder) firearms. This category does not cover riflescopes and sighting devices that are not manufactured to military specifications. It also excludes accessories and attachments (e.g., belts, slings, after market rubber grips, cleaning kits) for firearms that do not enhance the usefulness, effectiveness, or capabilities of the firearm, components and parts. The Department of Commerce regulates the export of such items. See the Export Administration Regulations (15 CFR parts 730–799). In addition, license exemptions for the items in this category are available in various parts of this subchapter (e.g. §§123.17, 123.18 and 125.4).
