Anybody shot one? I think I have an idea of what their laws are regarding storage/transportation, I just want to make sure there's nothing wonky that I might be missing.

I'm planning on shooting a match there in June.

Thanks

Check with Peter G., goes by RePete on this forum. He travels down there regularly to shoot IDPA.

Take Care

Bob
 
Shoot them all the time. The last one was - today :D

I lock my guns the same way they're locked here - trigger locked and in a locked case inside my unlocked range bag. Ammo is kept in plastic ammo boxes in my range bag - never had an issue.

Nothing wonky - just keep all of your paperwork in order. I use a zippered 3-ring binder with the clear plastic sleeves for everything.

  • Form 6NIA
  • Border ATT
  • Hunting License
  • Match Invitations
  • Photocopies of Registration Certificates
  • Temporary Export Permit (green card from Canada Customs)
  • Passport
Drive to US border, take off sunglasses, hand him your passport.
Citizenship? Canadian
Where are you going? To ### Club, for a pistol match.
What are you bringing into the US? I have 1 (or 2) pistols(s) locked up in the back.
Do you have your ATF form? Yes (handing it to him) I have the Glock/Para/HK - 3rd gun on the list.

You may or may not get sent to secondary to verify serial numbers. Typically they hand our paperwork back and say goodbye.

BTW, for the benefit of everyone else reading this - US Customs had an exit check set up on the Niagara Falls bridge today.
 
Thanks PMT,

Just to double check, I was told to have the match information/invitation along with an NRA Special Tournament approval in the locked container as well. To comply with NY state penal code.

Heard of this before?

Yes...
NY has some sticky laws... "Technically" it's illegal for someone without a NY "pistol lic." to posess a pistol under any circumstances save for the NRA thing, but... I've never had a problem nor have I heard of anyone having a problem shooting in NY.
I only ever shoot police matches in NY... Surrounded by local, state and federal agents... they all know I be Canadian. 'never been asked anything about my guns. Never hassled at the border...
 
Shoot them all the time. The last one was - today :D

I lock my guns the same way they're locked here - trigger locked and in a locked case inside my unlocked range bag. Ammo is kept in plastic ammo boxes in my range bag - never had an issue.

Nothing wonky - just keep all of your paperwork in order. I use a zippered 3-ring binder with the clear plastic sleeves for everything.

  • Form 6NIA
  • Border ATT
  • Hunting License
  • Match Invitations
  • Photocopies of Registration Certificates
  • Temporary Export Permit (green card from Canada Customs)
  • Passport
Drive to US border, take off sunglasses, hand him your passport.
Citizenship? Canadian
Where are you going? To ### Club, for a pistol match.
What are you bringing into the US? I have 1 (or 2) pistols(s) locked up in the back.
Do you have your ATF form? Yes (handing it to him) I have the Glock/Para/HK - 3rd gun on the list.

You may or may not get sent to secondary to verify serial numbers. Typically they hand our paperwork back and say goodbye.

BTW, for the benefit of everyone else reading this - US Customs had an exit check set up on the Niagara Falls bridge today.


How do I get this temporary Export permit from Canada Customs?
Do I have to call the CFO for a temp ATT every time I go to shoot?
 
How do I get this temporary Export permit from Canada Customs?
Do I have to call the CFO for a temp ATT every time I go to shoot?

The Temp Export Permit is a little green card you fill out with the item description, make , & ser #

Handgun, Colt, A12345
Camera, Canon, A12345
GPS, Garmin, A12345

It's good forever. Customs may or may not verify the serial # and stamp the card. Occasionally they will ask to see it upon your return to Canada.

When you get your Form 6NIA, you fax it to Kerrie at the CFO office and request an Entry/Exit ATT.
She would only allow me to list 7 entry points, so this is my list:

  1. Nia Falls/Queenston
  2. Fort Erie
  3. Windsor
  4. Sarnia
  5. Brockport
  6. Pearson Int'l
  7. Hamilton Airport
It's good for a year as she dates it to match your Form 6.

Yes...
NY has some sticky laws... "Technically" it's illegal for someone without a NY "pistol lic." to posess a pistol under any circumstances save for the NRA thing, but... I've never had a problem nor have I heard of anyone having a problem shooting in NY.
I only ever shoot police matches in NY... Surrounded by local, state and federal agents... they all know I be Canadian. 'never been asked anything about my guns. Never hassled at the border...

Yea, this is really weird. NY won't issue a non-resident license - they did many years ago. There is a 'safe passage" act in the US, but I can't find the link to it, and I'm not 100% sure I understand the wording.
Do a google search for 926A. Interstate transportation of firearms.
 
PMT

I wasn't aware of the canada customs export permits, I've never been asked for them when re-entering Canada...Always thought reg certificates were good enough...Might have to look into this.

You should be able to get more than 7 on your ATT as well.

I have

Windsor, Cornwall, Sarnia, Sombra, Prescott, Cananoque 1000 island, Ft Erie, Queenston, Niagara Falls, Walpole Island, Kingston & Pearson Intl Airport.
 
PMT

I wasn't aware of the canada customs export permits, I've never been asked for them when re-entering Canada...Always thought reg certificates were good enough...Might have to look into this.

You should be able to get more than 7 on your ATT as well.

I have

Windsor, Cornwall, Sarnia, Sombra, Prescott, Cananoque 1000 island, Ft Erie, Queenston, Niagara Falls, Walpole Island, Kingston & Pearson Intl Airport.

Most of the Canadian Border Guards do not know the difference between a club ATT and a Border ATT, but they are becoming more knowledgable now that they are starting to carry handguns and are getting their own PAL's. You have NO right to carry your handguns to the border points with only a club permit. They may act on that if they want.

The CFO now needs your copy of your returned Form 6 before they will issue a Border permit. If you know the right people and are polite, it is a relatively painless process. The majority of the wait time spent is on the Form 6 going through the Department of Defense/BATF checks.
 
Most of the Canadian Border Guards do not know the difference between a club ATT and a Border ATT, but they are becoming more knowledgable now that they are starting to carry handguns and are getting their own PAL's. You have NO right to carry your handguns to the border points with only a club permit. They may act on that if they want.

The CFO now needs your copy of your returned Form 6 before they will issue a Border permit. If you know the right people and are polite, it is a relatively painless process. The majority of the wait time spent is on the Form 6 going through the Department of Defense/BATF checks.

This I know...I was speaking specifically about the Border ATT. I have 12 crossings on mine, yet Kerrie has told PMT that he can only have maximum 7.

Not sure why you quoted me on this
 
You should point out you are taking about how it is done in Ontario. Out in BC we don't have "Club" ATT's or "Border" ATT's. I only have one LATT issued to me by Victoria. Good for five years, all Western Provinces, Yukon and the NWT, to any Gunsmith and to all Border points on my way to the US as long as I have a valid Form 6 and my Invitation to shoot.

All of the above, world class Salmon, Steelhead fishing five minnuts from my house, mountains and a Glacier to look at out my window. Life isn't all that bad. Well we still have Liberals or the NDP for provincial choices but that aside life is good. :>)

Take Care

Bob
 
This I know...I was speaking specifically about the Border ATT. I have 12 crossings on mine, yet Kerrie has told PMT that he can only have maximum 7.

Not sure why you quoted me on this

I don't know why Kerrie said that. I think it may have been a knee-jerk response when I simply asked for all entry/exit points in Ontario. It's the whole 'control issue' thing within the CFO office I think.

The first time I asked for a border ATT before sending a copy of my Form 6 to her she asked why I wanted it. I told her 'to take my guns to the US.' Again she asked 'why' and I said 'because I want to go shooting.' I was told I must have reason - either a match invitation or hunting license- because they need to know why guns are leaving the country. :)

You should point out you are taking about how it is done in Ontario.
Yes, this how I roll in Ontari-ari-ari-o. I assumed that this was understood as the OP asked specifically about shooting in NY, and his info shows he's in Brantford. Everything west of Ontario is pretty much a free-for-all anyway :D

Funny thing about the temp export permit is that one time I asked for one I was told that I absolutely did not need it because my guns were registered in Canada. I insisted, and the card was actually thrown to me across the counter. On my return that day from shooting a USPSA match I was asked for my temp export permit :rolleyes:
 
You should point out you are taking about how it is done in Ontario. Out in BC we don't have "Club" ATT's or "Border" ATT's. I only have one LATT issued to me by Victoria. Good for five years, all Western Provinces, Yukon and the NWT, to any Gunsmith and to all Border points on my way to the US as long as I have a valid Form 6 and my Invitation to shoot.

All of the above, world class Salmon, Steelhead fishing five minnuts from my house, mountains and a Glacier to look at out my window. Life isn't all that bad. Well we still have Liberals or the NDP for provincial choices but that aside life is good. :>)

Take Care

Bob

Just had to point that out eh Bob? :p

But hey, I'm grateful because the Ontario CFO is keeping our cities safe....
 
You should point out you are taking about how it is done in Ontario. Out in BC we don't have "Club" ATT's or "Border" ATT's. I only have one LATT issued to me by Victoria. Good for five years, all Western Provinces, Yukon and the NWT, to any Gunsmith and to all Border points on my way to the US as long as I have a valid Form 6 and my Invitation to shoot.

All of the above, world class Salmon, Steelhead fishing five minnuts from my house, mountains and a Glacier to look at out my window. Life isn't all that bad. Well we still have Liberals or the NDP for provincial choices but that aside life is good. :>)

Take Care

Bob

I'm glad you cleared that up!I was reading the post's and thinking what the hell is this green card stuff?No one told me i needed that to get my pistol back into the Yukon from Alaska steel challenge this summer.Gotta love the west!
 
If you are attending a match in the US, and you have your ATT to the border and your invitation, do you have to have a hunting license to get your form 6? Seems kind of unusual to have a license when you will not be using it...can someone clarify that point? I am referring to New York State specifically, and I would be coming in from Ontario.
 
  • Form 6NIA
  • Border ATT
  • Hunting License
  • Match Invitations
  • Photocopies of Registration Certificates
  • Temporary Export Permit (green card from Canada Customs)
  • Passport
.

Sorry, I was just reading PMT's list, and it indicated both a license and an invitation letter...so, if you have the invitation letter, you do not need the license, correct?
 
Well, my money is sent away and I'm registered.

I'm told I am the 3rd international competitor and 120 are registered. Sounds like its going to be a great match.
 
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