Russian SKS vs CHinese SKS

Claven2 said:
Not in my experience. You show me a refurb with all original matching parts - I'll be you cannot.

This is because the gas tubes and pistons were not kept with the rifles during the Russina refurb process. You can always make out the faint traces of the previous S/N electro-pencil blued over. (or painted over)
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How much money do you want to lose?
 
big bear said:
Curious,does your list order have any significance? Higher on the list, higher the "quality"?
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I have refurbs that rival non-refurbs for looks. I've also had mutts that were made from many guns and not force matched. They all shoot. I think with Russians the quality is there even in refurbs on a whole. It's the looks that vary from gun to gun.
 
Woodbeef said:
Not totally correct on Russian refurbs. There are many levels of refurbishment with Russian SKSs. They run the gamut of:
New rifles that only had a stock swap
Rifles that have been phosphated during refurb
Painted rifles
Rifles made from forced parts
Rifles made from mis-matched parts.
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Agree,on my Tula 1955/56 the only parts that matchs are the trigger guard and the receiver, the others have differents numbers and they are not even electro penciled! And i dont think the rifle have ever been reblued because the blue is about 50 or 60%. I have replaced the gas tube manys years ago and also refinish the stock, the point is that SKS shoot better than my chinese in excellent shape. But i have to try yet my 1949 refurb with the non-chrome bore to see if is a better shooter.
 
Make sure you see the rifle before you buy it.

JeffJames said:
Thanks for the replies guys. I have been checking out deals on the SK's for the last couple months and found this at Le Baron for $185
Russian Simonov SKS
Semi–Auto Rifle – 7.62x39
• Hardwood stock • Silver bolt
• Refinished to excellent condition
• Comes with sling and accessories

But the listing doesnt have the date of the rifle, I will of course ask that info before laying the money down.
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The Russians are for the most part, refurbished, which means "force matched" (elecropenciled) markings. My buddy just got a ChiCom Type 56 from Tradex, and these are unissued, all matching Cold War rifles. If I wasn't going to the big gun show in Kelowna this month, I would definately add one of these to my collection.
 
Woodbeef said:
You can see the flat spot and lighter bluing on the renumbered ones. Not all have been renumbered. So there goes your idea. Come on down and bring your $$$$.
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Nope. I have several re-numberes gas piston and tubes where there is no flat spot and the whole thing was re-blued. You can only see a faint shadow of the old numbers, but they are there! ALL the Lebaron refurbs I looked at were the same. Dozens of rifles.
 
easyrider604 said:
For those relative newcomers to this red rifle forum and the SKS rifle, betting against Woodbeef is definitely not a good idea.:D or curtton:D:D
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LOL. I started collecting SKS rifles 15 years ago. I stopped about 8 years ago and just started again. I've yet to read a post on this forum with information that was not on Simonov.net 10 years ago - food for thought.

Those guys know their stuff, but they are not Poyer or Bearse ;)
 
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