Totally different when shooting, VZ is much nicer to shoot, the M14 is very heavy.
Norinco JW 103 or Norinco M14?
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Totally different when shooting, VZ is much nicer to shoot, the M14 is very heavy.
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Chinese SKS for around $200.00, another $200.00 for 1100 rounds of 7.62x39.
Or save your pennies and plan on reloading for the M14/305. Also not a bad idea to PM someone like m14doctor and make arrangements to have your new m14 clone indexed/tuned before you start adding scopes etc.
Avoid the Norc bolt action. The two I've handled (from a couple different batches) were...Kinda rough around the edges.
Or save your pennies and plan on reloading for the M14/305. Also not a bad idea to PM someone like m14doctor and make arrangements to have your new m14 clone indexed/tuned before you start adding scopes etc.
Avoid the Norc bolt action. The two I've handled (from a couple different batches) were...Kinda rough around the edges.
Ya like I said had my brother pick up the SKS for me and hold it until all my stuff is done and I have my licence, but that is what I have been hearing about both the jw 103 and the 105 that they have rough bolts, might wonder into Accuracy Plus and see what they have and get a feel for some different rifles before I decide
49er1 sorry to rain on your parade but the x39 round is just not meant for accuracy. Now if you want some thing to plink with the SkS is the only viable option considering it's price. Now if you want a hunting/tack rig well the M14 is the only answer. As for a bolt action rifle none of these rifle's including the JW's series will even compare to a tried, tested and true bolt action like a Savage or a Remington 700. Get the SkS first and pratice blasting center fire rounds and work out the flinching. Then get a good bolt action 22LR and pratice on your trigger pull & mechannics of shooting. Then when you have gone threw all this basics get an M14 and a nice bolt action rifle and you will be set with out blowning alot on wasted ammo.
A lot of good opinion here.
As it happens, I own all the rifles suggested. M305, SKS (Ruskie, Norinco and Yugo) VZ58, and the JW103 & 105. They all feel very different. If you handle them, there will be some that will feel better than others.
The cost of feeding them can be an issue. The accuracy of the 7.62x39 surplus ammo may be an issue.
Very soon I plan on taking all of the above rifles (plus a #4T and a NM sniper clone) to the range and shoot them all off a bench with both surplus and handloads. Until then, I cannot really comment on how they campare for shooting.
I have shot them all, but not at the same time under similar conditions.
The last one I shot was the JW103, less than a week ago. With CZ ammo at 300 yards it was mediocre - about 3 minutes. Trigger was fantastic. next time will include handloads, so we can see how the rifle does and how much of the group is the milsurp ammo. I also have some Wolf commercial HP ammo to try.
Stay tuned.
As it happens, I own all the rifles suggested. M305, SKS (Ruskie, Norinco and Yugo) VZ58, and the JW103 & 105. They all feel very different. If you handle them, there will be some that will feel better than others.
The cost of feeding them can be an issue. The accuracy of the 7.62x39 surplus ammo may be an issue.
Very soon I plan on taking all of the above rifles (plus a #4T and a NM sniper clone) to the range and shoot them all off a bench with both surplus and handloads. Until then, I cannot really comment on how they campare for shooting.
I have shot them all, but not at the same time under similar conditions.
The last one I shot was the JW103, less than a week ago. With CZ ammo at 300 yards it was mediocre - about 3 minutes. Trigger was fantastic. next time will include handloads, so we can see how the rifle does and how much of the group is the milsurp ammo. I also have some Wolf commercial HP ammo to try.
Stay tuned.
Thanks for all the input guys and the suggestions on rifles to start with and what to use for hunting and what not as that is what I am looking to do is start hunting.
As for the 7.62 x 39 I know Im not going to be deadly accurate with it nor with the SKS, knew that when I bought it, bought it just to be a starter weapon something I can put a lot of rounds through for cheap for good old fun.
Would the .22LR be good for hunting small game at the same time as working on trigger pull?
As for the 7.62 x 39 I know Im not going to be deadly accurate with it nor with the SKS, knew that when I bought it, bought it just to be a starter weapon something I can put a lot of rounds through for cheap for good old fun.
Would the .22LR be good for hunting small game at the same time as working on trigger pull?
NO, get a SKS for that.
excellent choice for learning offhand shooting.
also many hunters i've shot with over the years get a bolt action 22 and weight it so it has a similar weight and balance and optic set up as their go to hunting rifle. tune the trigger if possible so the two rifles mimic each other in trigger pull and feel. learning with a 22 to manipulate body and trigger while offhand shooting under hunting conditions makes for a smooth transition to the larger caliber and you do not develop a flinch while training with the 22.
many law enforcement and military types have used 22 rifles as trainers prior to moving up to the issue weapon.
You've never had a 10/22 or cooey
I have a 10/22, not much trigger pull compared to a SKS, recoil is also a big issue if you want to get good grouping, otherwise you will have a lot of flyers. Bolt actions are definitlely eaiser to handle in that regard.
