Electric Bear Fence

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http://www.udap.com/bearshock.htm

Anybody ever use this or know anyone that has? I am thinking about buying the components at UFA and making my own electric bear fence. Home Hardware also sells all the components. I've been checking the stuff out and I'm pretty darn sure I can make my own for half the price. Besides I like the DIY kinda thing.

I'm planning on a week long solo hunt, at the end of May, camping in the wall tent. After the BS we put up with, with that bear last October, I'm thinking this might be kinda handy and I could see putting this up around the game pole, when we've got moose quarters hanging on it.
 
Mey a guy who was on the ferry coming back from the West Coast where they set up camp on a small island.
The M/C battery he had was good enough for a few days he said.
IIRC he was going to improve upon the system by adding a small solar panel the following year.
He said it kept the bears at bay for three or four days, thet where there a week....
FWIW.
Rob
 
See what I'm thinking is the UFA Co-op will have the perfect stuff, cuz they sell that to farmers all the time, for cattle etc... I know, I've looked at their online store, they definitely sell the components. They sell several different 12V models; so does Home Hardware.

I like making my own stuff also... even if it's really just assembling the components.
 
The thing to remember about livestock electric fencing is that they are designed to keep domestic animals in, not wild animal out.

Margo Supplies in Alberta produces electric fencing specifically for bear, black and grizzly, exclusion.

We just had one installed at our landfill site, and believe me when I say that they work very well.

I believe that they also market a so called portable unit as well for remote camps etc. The nice thing it's 100% solar powered with gel cell battery technology.

They are a very sout and robust unit, highly recommended.

Rick
 
Demonical said:
http://www.udap.com/bearshock.htm

Anybody ever use this or know anyone that has? I am thinking about buying the components at UFA and making my own electric bear fence. Home Hardware also sells all the components. I've been checking the stuff out and I'm pretty darn sure I can make my own for half the price. Besides I like the DIY kinda thing.

I'm planning on a week long solo hunt, at the end of May, camping in the wall tent. After the BS we put up with, with that bear last October, I'm thinking this might be kinda handy and I could see putting this up around the game pole, when we've got moose quarters hanging on it.
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Check out Halford Hide. They offer a complette kit with a mesh fence that's far superior for bears.
 
^ I checked out Margo Supplies site; the chargers they sell are the same ones that Home Hardware sells (Parmak is the brand name).

Really, I think all the different brands of electric fence energizer units are all pretty much the same thing. Of course some will be constructed better, but no way to know without talking to somebody like at a farm supply store.

Margo Supplies link.
http://margosupplies.com/public/canadian1/fencing/fencing_supplies.htm

Here's a link to tons of them...
http://www.thefind.com/garden/info-12v-fence-charger#sess[search.pagesize.base]=28&page=1

And the Parmak model HH sells...
http://www.homehardware.ca/Products/index/show/product/I5242150/name/fencer_battery_12vlt_30mile
 
M12shooter said:
Some bee keepers out this way with bear problems use electric fencing to protect thier hives. Some say after a few attempts bears simply march through the fence.
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BINGO...

We lost 14 hives to bears over the course of a couple, three nights... They marched over and through a working 7,000 volt fence..

They had come into the field a couple months prior and took 3 hives.. One of the neighbors shot 2 of them...

We put the fence in anyways with a couple alarms.. the Alarms went off 3-4 times before they got used to them and within about 3 weeks they were in the field again.. Finally stopped when they got into the neighbors orchard again.. He got all 3.. But the weak hives didn't make it through the winter...
 
Hmmm...

Actually that doesn't really sound surprising to me. What's a little jolt to get some honey, if you're a bear? But then that would mean that this wouldn't work too good around a game pole either, eh?

What about around your tent then, to shock a bear that's nosing around in the dark?
 
Bear fences have to be tight, and the batteries fresh. When all is done, 2 or 3 feet of chicken wire, grounded for maximum effect. Once a bear gets too smart, they will hit the wire running and take a little pain for the gain.
On Vancouver Island, if they are in your bee yard you could shoot them to protect livestock/agriculture. If they were outside . . . you filled your tag. I never lost a hive and changed my battery every three weeks.
 
We have one at our local landfill and it's a joke. The bears just dig under it. It was put a foot or so down into the ground too and they just dig until they get through.
 
i managed to get blasted by the neighbours 10,000 volt fencer while being well grounded on a metal fence post. a good ground is needed to be effective as i had my hand on the live wire and felt nothing till i touched the fence post to climb the fence.alternate a live wire with a grounded wire and you will have a better fence.years ago farmers imported weedchopper fencers from the states but they were outlawed as you could not free yourself from the fence if you came in contact with it .









good ground
 
RangerRick said:
The thing to remember about livestock electric fencing is that they are designed to keep domestic animals in, not wild animal out.
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BULLSH*T It all comes down to how much you want to pay.

There are different power units for different applications (length of fence). For battery powered units it is always a compromise between power output and battery life. http://www.hallman.ca/6900.htm

On AC power units you can go higher than you would possibly need. http://www.hallman.ca/trident.htm
 
M12shooter said:
Some bee keepers out this way with bear problems use electric fencing to protect thier hives. Some say after a few attempts bears simply march through the fence.
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That is because they don't have enough power or have not designed their fence properly. (or both) You have to hit a bear hard the first time. If you don't then the zap they get is just the cost of doing business.

bear.23 said:
BINGO...

We lost 14 hives to bears over the course of a couple, three nights... They marched over and through a working 7,000 volt fence..
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You need a decent pulse width. Voltage alone is not enough.
 
Rudy H said:
That is because they don't have enough power or have not designed their fence properly. (or both) You have to hit a bear hard the first time. If you don't then the zap they get is just the cost of doing business.



You need a decent pulse width. Voltage alone is not enough.
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Grounding is actually the big issue. The mesh/netting eliminates the need for a good ground as there are both positive and negative wires in the mesh. After talking with numerous experts in the field of bear fencing, there is univesal agreement that single strands are pretty well useles and mesh is nearly 100% effective. The unit from High Country uses an energizer than runs for weeks on a hanful of "D" cell batteries. It's plenty of power when used with the mesh.
 
We have been using a unit that runs on D cells for years,and it works great,as long as you install fresh batteries before every hunt.We hunt a week to ten days on one set of batteries.Just be sure to remember where the fence is if nature calls in the middle of the night.
 
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