Yours is some level headed thinking! Thank you. I think I will hold out for a better deal. Also, someone suggested an m13 for my bigger hands which I haven't had the pleasure of holding. I might head down to blue line and see for myself before I dive in.
HK P7M8 tell me im making a bad decision.
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Yours is some level headed thinking! Thank you. I think I will hold out for a better deal. Also, someone suggested an m13 for my bigger hands which I haven't had the pleasure of holding. I might head down to blue line and see for myself before I dive in.
Have you shot a P7? Before dropping that kind of money on a gun, be sure it works for you.
Mark
Well to be honest, no. But I have held quite a few, dry fired, they feel very nice. I would go for a PSP cause I dont mind the mag release, but spending over a grand for a purple gun just doesn't sit right with me. Ive read about every thread on the p7 here on CGN, including the one you started. I have a real crush on this gun. I don't think there is anything that will convince me not to get one, the question is when.
How do you like yours? Regrets?
Dropping? I would have thought the exact opposite because of the example you have given. Maybe im looking at this wrong. Being so rare, wouldn't it drive the price up?
Also, good point about the mag price, I haven't even asked how many the gun comes with.
Im leaning more towards getting a P7 once my new job starts. It is definitely on my MUST BUY LIST but if I can find the same price a few months down the road I might just get something a little cheaper for the time being to satisfy my hunger. Gonna go to the gun store this afternoon and see what I get talked into.
I agree with TDC, firearm is not a good investment now a day, plus the same kind of money, you can enjoy two very nice guns in different cal. Those P7 or P7M8 pistol pop up at EE every now and then, people seems to buy them to own for a very short while and sell it. If you love the gun in a heart beat, can't live without it, go buy it. But a gun is a shooting iron, you might have to shoot it to have fun, then a P7 is just a gun that has a high price tag but won't make you shoot better than shoot a $500 Glock. Wait until you have a full pocket and see if you really want one.
Trigun
Not so hard to believe, I have one P7M8 in my safe that is new unfired, the second has under 100 rounds on it, and the third has under 500 rounds down the pipe. I love the design and the history of the design. Its a love it or hate it kind of gas gun, and its unique.
The mags are getting hard to find, if you can afford to, order mags now and get the gun later. All mine wear nill grips and that adds a bit more meat to them, but the wait for the grips was just over 9 months for my last order (part of the delay is the export compliance paper work they need for Germany).
If you are cash strapped, the p7 or p7psp might be the way to go, same design, heel mag release instead of the ambi-conventional release. Overall its a neat and accurate little gun. Good luck with your hunt for one.
The mags are getting hard to find, if you can afford to, order mags now and get the gun later. All mine wear nill grips and that adds a bit more meat to them, but the wait for the grips was just over 9 months for my last order (part of the delay is the export compliance paper work they need for Germany).
If you are cash strapped, the p7 or p7psp might be the way to go, same design, heel mag release instead of the ambi-conventional release. Overall its a neat and accurate little gun. Good luck with your hunt for one.
I haven't bought one yet, been waiting for the M8 version to come up and taxes to be covered off first. I will own one eventually, it was a great gun to shoot. The heel release on the PSP worked very well and I don't think it would be any handicap to me in IDPA compared to the typical button release.
If we had CCW here I would have bought one a while ago regardless of price, but is a long ways off in the future at the moment.
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Yea its a pretty cool gun but its kinda a lot of money for a "cool" factor. I'd get something newer/cheaper and not stamped with the HK mark(adds alo of $$$ for it) and spend the difference on lots more ammo to train with.
IMO, there's nothing special about the P7M8. Having to squeeze the grip to fire a round is somewhat awkward. If you're dead-set on buying one, I'd buy a used one on the EE for hundreds less. After firing a few hundred rounds, the HK is just getting broken-in, so why would you want a new one over one thatis "like-new"? I wouldn't pay the premium and sales tax for new/unfired. In addition, if you decide you don't like it or circumstances change, you can put it back on the EE and get most of your money back.
I sold a new unfired Hkp7m8 for 1800.00 on the CGN exchange about 4 months ago.An unfired one would be a good investment piece.
I have owned Quite a few Hkp7m8's and also Hk P7 psp's
While I like the M8's ,I feel that the original Psp( with heal mag release )design was superior.The German's had it right with the Psp, the M8 was created in an attempt to appeal the the American market place.They installed an ambi mag release in a location that was favored by American shooters.The mag release lever's on the M8 are very easy to accidently trip when drawing the pistol from a holster.
That is the only real short coming of the M8 in my opinion.
I think an unfired M8 @ 1700.00 would be well bought and may trade in the 2000.00 - 2200.00 range in a year or two(for the right buyer)
Ricka2
I have owned Quite a few Hkp7m8's and also Hk P7 psp's
While I like the M8's ,I feel that the original Psp( with heal mag release )design was superior.The German's had it right with the Psp, the M8 was created in an attempt to appeal the the American market place.They installed an ambi mag release in a location that was favored by American shooters.The mag release lever's on the M8 are very easy to accidently trip when drawing the pistol from a holster.
That is the only real short coming of the M8 in my opinion.
I think an unfired M8 @ 1700.00 would be well bought and may trade in the 2000.00 - 2200.00 range in a year or two(for the right buyer)
Ricka2
I recently did an inventory of the pistols I want to keep and those not so special to me anymore. The two keepers on top of my modern (both +30 year old) combat pistols list and likely last to sell are a PSP and a West German Sig 220 in 45. I don't belong to either cult, but I certainly can understand the following. The engineering and accuracy of these guns are things of beauty. The HK is a fine pistol, go ahead get it and enjoy. Might as well buy another as you likely are not going to want to shoot the never fired gun.
At one time I owned 3 P7M8's. Had 2 of them chromed. They are accurate 100% reliable guns. However they are a PITA to clean and if you have to replace parts, they take a long time to get in and taking the gun apart is difficult. If you insist on buying one I would suggest you buy a couple of spare firing pin bushings and sear bars. They are the two parts most prone to breaking. Spare recoils springs can be ordered quickly from Wolff Gunsprings.
There are some US P7 fans who think the newer guns have parts more prone to breaking than guns made in late 80's.
I discovered I shot the P2000 better and it's easy to clean and parts easier to replace....replace recoil spring assembly, extractor and spring and 2 coil springs for trigger and hammer...every 25000 rounds!!!! That's tough!!
There are some US P7 fans who think the newer guns have parts more prone to breaking than guns made in late 80's.
I discovered I shot the P2000 better and it's easy to clean and parts easier to replace....replace recoil spring assembly, extractor and spring and 2 coil springs for trigger and hammer...every 25000 rounds!!!! That's tough!!
Agreed. $1750 is only a good price for the world's best out-of-the-box service pistol if it remains the world's best service pistol for you after fifty rounds hands-on.
Those are both very fine pistols, you have great taste apu. Im excited for the re-release of the 220, im hoping that will drive the price down on the used ones. Somebody said something about a reproduction P7, but I think those were mostly rumors.
On a separate note, I was thinking about picking up my first polymer pistol. I usually like metal but wouldn't mind a light reliable handgun thats easy to service. Ive shot glocks and I didn't shoot as well as I did with my buddies Sig 2022 which had a better trigger and I liked the big interchangeable grips. Ive seen the P2000 list for just under a grand which seems like a great price for a good shooting HK, but is still a little more than the sig. Have you shot the sig at all, are they comparable? I do like the interchangeable grips, thats a big plus for a guy with larger hands. Does anyone use the P2000 for IPSC shooting?
If I dont like it I could probably get my money back on the EE, but if I Do buy it and dont shoot well with it, id probably still keep it for a safe queen.
Deets, I have the P2000 with the V1 LEM trigger. I got it from Wolverine Supplies. This trigger has a very light long takeup then breaks with a crisp 5.5lb single action like pull. To my finger, it feels just like a single action with a longer take up. Very light and crisp. I shot it when I took some tactical shooting courses, it shot 100$ with dirt and talcum powder like dust coating inside and out. Rapid firing as well as hitting a torso sized steel plate at 45 yards with just one hand (the teacher was REALLY good in getting you to the best of your skill). The gun performed just fine.
