Canada Post just damaged my new rifle. Can it be repaired by hand?

For one thing, the shipping rates does tend to rise as it goes across the country. The day of same-price delivery anywhere in Canada is long gone.

For another thing, $20 is not really a lot of money. It's only 20 bucks. But some of those trucks are licensed for 72,000 pounds GVW and might have 4,000 packages aboard, each one at that same $20. And then there's the "fuel surcharge".

Talk to somebody who has bought a truck recently, check out fuel and licensing costs and then work it all out on a calculator (I have). They aren't doing too terribly, awfully badly out of this.
 
You might want to talk to the the guy that own the truck, he may have 4000 pieces of freight on that truck but he sure as Hell does not get payed any where near the $20.00 a package that you seem to quote, Canada Post will charge you that but the trucker owner will be lucky to get .50 for that package, plus the fuel surcharge, he sure as Hell don't get $80.000 to deliver that load even if he hauled it 10,000 miles and back. Tell me the rates, I have been truckin for 50 yrs. and you just about starve to death out there now will all the rate cutter's that are on the road today, and I won't mention the people that are cutting rates. Just my thoughts.
 
Johnny G1, believe me, I sympathise.

I worked my way through high-school in a 24-hour truckstop cafe. Right now, my kid brother is out there, pounding the highway between here and Montreal because the 6 doctors who say he shouldn't be working don't know anything and the Manitoba Government doctor who has never seen him sez he's just fine to keep working. After all, it only took 3 hours to cut him out of the wreckage the last time some idiot ran a stop sign.

Truckers ALWAYS get the dirty end of the stick and the shipping companies ALWAYS make a bundle off them.

And the poor bloody O/O is always right in the middle.

That's the point.
 
Papaclaude said:
i worked for Canada Post, and got to spend some time in processing plants. I visited 2 competitors' plants, as well as a USPS facility. I'm sure there have been cases of deliberate damage, but I'm also sure these are isolated cases. fact of the matter is, with tens of thousands of parcels being handled, loaded, unloaded, placed in containers, on conveyors, down chutes and so on, you'd best make sure it is properly packaged. The people working in those facilities don't have the time, nor do they care to, start hand carrying parcels around.

Make sure it's packed to withstand anything you could think of, and it should be OK. For an idea as to what it may go through, look at baggage handlers at an airport. They don't go out of their way to damage things, but having high quality luggage sure helps. Otherwise, there are courier companies that will hand deliver, but it'll cost. My parents (many moons ago) used to work in a grocery store and would often use truck drivers from bakeries, butcher shops, etc. to take parcels from town to town. Don't know if you can still do that, though.

i have to admit, I'm no fan of Canada post, but realistically, how much money do you think they make when they charge $20 to deliver a rifle from Red Deer AB to Pickle Lake, ON. Shipping from Montreal to Toronto for $20 is a big money maker, but they also charge the same price from and to isolated communities.
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I'm working in a warehouse that supplies pharmacies right now. If you have a way to keep UPS from crushing $20,000 of drugs in their overloaded vans or impressing on my supervisor (who's worked there longer than everyone else in receiving. Combined.) that it's not a good idea to toss and slide a cooler with $70,000 of temperature-sensitive medication in glass vials to the temperature probing station, I'd be much obliged.

I find it a minor miracle that parcels ever arrive intact.
 
Papaclaude said:
i have to admit, I'm no fan of Canada post, but realistically, how much money do you think they make when they charge $20 to deliver a rifle from Red Deer AB to Pickle Lake, ON. Shipping from Montreal to Toronto for $20 is a big money maker, but they also charge the same price from and to isolated communities.
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They make a killing.. I don't know about you but having shipped rifles.. it's alittle more then $20 and the cost is not consistent..


K0L 1G0 V8V 4V6 34.00 in. 8.00 in. 4.00 in. 17.000 lb. $22.80
Strange Yellowknife is the same price.
K0L 1G0 B0T 1G0 34.00 in. 8.00 in. 4.00 in. 17.000 lb. $22.24
m1g 1Y5 13.80
A1A 4W6 24.53

Change this to a 5x5x5 box weighing 30 lbs then things get interesting... :0

My biggest pet peeve was the quiet removal of the small packet rates...
I used to be able to send a small package (oversize but small (say a case gauge) for about $5 that same package is now $10 or more...
 
More money, poorer service, fatter bureaucrats and to blazes with the slobs who pay for it.

There just HAS to be a better way.... and the day somebody finds it, there will be a right proper exodus away from Canada Post.

This all can be turned around, though. They CAN give better service, they have all the automated equipment and computers anyone could ask for; they have the MEANS.

All that is missing, so far, is the WILL.

Restore THAT and there will be a lot of happy people.
 
Not sure whether this is true or not... I was sending something out the other day at the post office, and the guy behind me in line said he was from measurement canada.

He then told me that CP is being sued by... Lee Valley I believe he said, because they are using "weight by measurement" instead of actual package weight.
 
Ok guys, here's the pics of the damage. Hope they came out good enough for you guys to see what they did, and come up with some solutions.....


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I had an incident with damage by Canada Post and after a phone call and claim, I was told that the sender has to claim the damage. I received the gun with cost plus shipping, thus I became the shipper. they still wanted the actual person to package and send the parcel to put in a claim. I contacted the seller, he put in a claim, the postal service sent him the damage claim in well over the $100, but UNFORTUNATELY..... GREED took over and the seller did not send me the funds to cover the repair of the damage. Funny how things work when money is involved.

In your case though, It is possible to lay partial claim on the actual shipper...something that is that rare and expensive should have been SUPER protected and/ or disassembled to prevent damage. A plastic shipping case is only about $25, for protection of a $1000 dollar gun...a pittance..... I never send a gun out with the scope installed ( wrapped separately) and the trigger well protected. If possible the gun barrel disassembled from the stock and wrapped well.Shorter cartons costs less also.
 
I had a similar experience to Winny Toymaker. Firearm purchased here for $###, butt stock completely snapped off upon arrival, thus unusable. Received same instructions from CP and contacted the seller. It was asked by the seller that I inflate the price when speaking to CP about the claim. I did eventually receive ### times 0.70 from the seller and he pocketed the rest + he got what the firearm sold for in the first place! Funny how money changes things.

Strong packaging is the real insurance but do we all should insure packages as a claim can come through.

Bruce
 
Bruce H Cook said:
I had a similar experience to Winny Toymaker. Firearm purchased here for $###, butt stock completely snapped off upon arrival, thus unusable. Received same instructions from CP and contacted the seller. It was asked by the seller that I inflate the price when speaking to CP about the claim. I did eventually receive ### times 0.70 from the seller and he pocketed the rest + he got what the firearm sold for in the first place! Funny how money changes things.

Strong packaging is the real insurance but do we all should insure packages as a claim can come through.

Bruce
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In a situation like this I don't see why one would scam a fellow gun owner. People do it and it sucks but there are better ways to go about it.

Hell, inflate the price to get as much as you can out of CP then, using your situation as an example, if there is enough, cover the cost of a new stock etc. for you and split the rest down the middle. Both parties are happy and got something out of a company that's been screwing them time and again.
 
lucky07 said:
In a situation like this I don't see why one would scam a fellow gun owner. People do it and it sucks but there are better ways to go about it.

Hell, inflate the price to get as much as you can out of CP then, using your situation as an example, if there is enough, cover the cost of a new stock etc. for you and split the rest down the middle. Both parties are happy and got something out of a company that's been screwing them time and again.
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don't agree at all...!

why would you reward the sender/shipper for his lack of care and lousy packaging job?

All the money from the claim should go to the buyer only, because he has to go through all the trouble of fixing a damaged friearm.
 
polaris said:
don't agree at all...!

why would you reward the sender/shipper for his lack of care and lousy packaging job?

All the money from the claim should go to the buyer only, because he has to go through all the trouble of fixing a damaged friearm.
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because apparently when you don't they keep every penny.

But that's not how CP does things, so were kinda stuck.
 
just tell cp you were the shipper ,at the other location and shipped it to your self. so you would not have problems boarding the plane, or bus. or some other reason.
 
Well, my 1905 Ross arrived here, all the way from the East Coast.

Twenty-nine bucks and some-odd for postage and so forth.

Friend ALBAYO must have lost money on this sale just because of the sheer amount of bubblewrap and tape that he used. But the rifle is at its new home and it ain't goin' nowhere very soon.

But the precautions taken by friend Albayo were needed: they tried to BEND it. Ross Rifles do not take well to bending.

Fortunately for me (and for the rifle), friend Albayo had almost bomb-proofed the package.

It's really too bad that it seems necessary to think like this and to take flamboyant precautions. We are paying exorbitant rates: we are entitled to good service, which we are not getting.
 
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